[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The twats who ran away from London are spreading it everywhere

It's already everywhere. It's literally in Australia. Remember when everyone thought they could limit the original spread in Feb/March and then were rudely informed "lol no you can't"? Same deal. Clutching at straws. Various strains are seeded across the entire planet and governments are still acting like it can be contained... the LESS infectious strain couldn't be contained... but yes of course it's logical that this more infectious strain can be. Farce.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's already everywhere. It's literally in Australia. Remember when everyone thought they could limit the original spread in Feb/March and then were rudely informed "lol no you can't"? Same deal. Clutching at straws. Various strains are seeded across the entire planet and governments are still acting like it can be contained... the LESS infectious strain couldn't be contained... but yes of course it's logical that this more infectious strain can be. Farce.

stop fearmongering


no reason for panic, what german scientists literally are saying

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

stop fearmongering


no reason for panic, what german scientists literally are saying

I'm not panicking or scaremongering, it's the same Covid that's been with us for nearly a year, it just spreads more easily. Pointing out that it's already active across the globe and thus can't be contained in one place (because it is already in more than one place) isn't scare mongering, it's being realistic.

The German virologist you quoted yesterday was literally saying "Meh, it's almost certainly already here in Germany, but no need to worry too much".

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

stop fearmongering


no reason for panic, what german scientists literally are saying

please stop talking nonsense Nicky

The variant has been around for months, it will be in every country in the world

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

please stop talking nonsense Nicky

The variant has been around for months, it will be in every country in the world

I agree.
It's normal for a virus to mutate.
This isn't exclusive of the UK.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's already everywhere. It's literally in Australia. Remember when everyone thought they could limit the original spread in Feb/March and then were rudely informed "lol no you can't"? Same deal. Clutching at straws. Various strains are seeded across the entire planet and governments are still acting like it can be contained... the LESS infectious strain couldn't be contained... but yes of course it's logical that this more infectious strain can be. Farce.

My brother reckons all this banning UK travel and harsher restrictions (which we're going to have announced tonight here) is all a ploy to make sure people comply and get vaccinated

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My brother reckons all this banning UK travel and harsher restrictions (which we're going to have announced tonight here) is all a ploy to make sure people comply and get vaccinated

I got eye-rolled at last night for posing a few conspiracy theories about the convenient timing of a lot of these new revelations . e.g. one of mine is that they didn't "suddenly" get worried about this new strain - they've been tracking this strain since September - what ACTUALLY happened was, they realised that the 5 day restrictions-free-for-all was an absolute disaster waiting to happen but couldn't just say "actually we've decided it's maybe not a good idea so now we're saying no" and thus needed a "new threat" to justify backpedaling on Christmas, and to scare people into compliance .

This theory hinges on what revelations come about this new strain after the Christmas and New Year period. If they come out with "actually it's not that much worse than the original strain after all" in early January then I'll be pretty convinced that this is what happened.

It's "interesting" that there are specific figures being quoted about "how much more infectious it is" despite a low sample size and there being no lab-confirmed details.

Also "interesting" that virologists from other countries are verifying that the strain being talked about is real, but noting that pockets of that strain haven't resulted in huge case surges in those areas (or at least not yet).

SUS

I don't really believe in coincidental timing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I got eye-rolled at last night for posing a few conspiracy theories about the convenient timing of a lot of these new revelations . e.g. one of mine is that they didn't "suddenly" get worried about this new strain - they've been tracking this strain since September - what ACTUALLY happened was, they realised that the 5 day restrictions-free-for-all was an absolute disaster waiting to happen but couldn't just say "actually we've decided it's maybe not a good idea so now we're saying no" and thus needed a "new threat" to justify backpedaling on Christmas, and to scare people into compliance .

This theory hinges on what revelations come about this new strain after the Christmas and New Year period. If they come out with "actually it's not that much worse than the original strain after all" in early January then I'll be pretty convinced that this is what happened.

It's "interesting" that there are specific figures being quoted about "how much more infectious it is" despite a low sample size and there being no lab-confirmed details.

Also "interesting" that virologists from other countries are verifying that the strain being talked about is real, but noting that pockets of that strain haven't resulted in huge case surges in those areas (or at least not yet).

SUS

I don't really believe in coincidental timing.

Yeah, I mean it's not even that wild of a conspiracy theory really, is it? The timing is like you said very convenient hhhmmm

I'm not very comfortable with the UK being used as a scapegoat either tbh Brexit aside, we're in the middle of a crisis, people are suffering. A bit of honesty would be more appreciated instead of trying to blame people who aren't to blame and make us all afraid of each other and cause even more chaos and panic and limit food supplies

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, I mean it's not even that wild of a conspiracy theory really, is it? The timing is like you said very convenient hhhmmm

I'm not very comfortable with the UK being used as a scapegoat either tbh Brexit aside, we're in the middle of a crisis, people are suffering. A bit of honesty would be more appreciated instead of trying to blame people who aren't to blame and make us all afraid of each other and cause even more chaos and panic and limit food supplies

Exactly. Why are we being blamed for this when the new strain is in other countries as well?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My brother reckons all this banning UK travel and harsher restrictions (which we're going to have announced tonight here) is all a ploy to make sure people comply and get vaccinated

Quite possibly...if countries were really serious about keeping it out they would be banning all inbound travel