[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well all that aside as it's nothing to do with me, and im not too familiar with Livia's posts, don't you thing she makes a point? We do, in the western world, seem to put a lot of effort and time into finding problems that don't really exist. Should we really be worrying more about misgenedring children, or referring to them as 'learners' more than those going through horrific ordeals in the middle east and Africa? This is not to mention the forced marriages at the age of 11/12 to much older men. Or homosexuality punishable by death.

or the fact that "wokeness" caused Rotherham

and the fact that white working class kids have been totally forgotten in the UK

White working-class pupils ‘neglected’ by education system for decades

(all media today)

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or the fact that "wokeness" caused Rotherham

and the fact that white working class kids have been totally forgotten in the UK

White working-class pupils ‘neglected’ by education system for decades

(all media today)

Oh really
I'm pretty sure the government are a big part of these problems,but no no continue to blame "wokeness" why don't you .

And there's working class people from all backgrounds that need help & support .

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or the fact that "wokeness" caused Rotherham

and the fact that white working class kids have been totally forgotten in the UK

White working-class pupils ‘neglected’ by education system for decades

(all media today)

Meanwhile, in the real world...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Meanwhile, in the real world...

i will just...leave....this...here...

Spoiler:

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i will just...leave....this...here...

Spoiler:

Not the first time you've brought this up, and I'll repeat again what i told you all the other times. There is nothing extraordinary about that note, it's been the kind of note chancellors have left incoming chancellors from other parties forever. The only difference here, is that it was seized upon and used as propaganda in what would be a sign of things to come for this generation of liars.

When witticisms become weapons

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...ider-tradition

This all happened on the back of the 2008 world wide financial crisis, so it's not even as though there was a choice. However, even on the back of all that information, what you can't even begin to explain away, is the fact our finances are horrendously worse now than they ever were under that labour government, and if you can find me saying anything positive about Blairite labour, then you've got some magic beans.


We owe more money, we have more debt, it's worse as a percentage of gdp, etc, etc, etc, etc.

But "man left note." shows how willfully people will lie and manipulate to defend ideology

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

As this is obviously the biggest insult on this island at the moment, I'd like for some of the folks who believe it's a negative, to explain exactly what it means, to help the rest of us, and me in particular, understand exactly why it's a problem.

Anyone is welcome to contribute, but I only want to read your personal opinions, not daily mail comments or telegraph articles.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Meanwhile, in the real world...

I note you are not following your own rules

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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I note you are not following your own rules

Yeah, I wasn't really worried about myself spamming threads with telegraph or nonce-enabler, and LT favourite Jim Davidson nonsense, and if you could see deleted posts, you'd see why I asked for peoples opinions, not spam.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not the first time you've brought this up, and I'll repeat again what i told you all the other times. There is nothing extraordinary about that note, it's been the kind of note chancellors have left incoming chancellors from other parties forever. The only difference here, is that it was seized upon and used as propaganda in what would be a sign of things to come for this generation of liars.

When witticisms become weapons

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...ider-tradition

This all happened on the back of the 2008 world wide financial crisis, so it's not even as though there was a choice. However, even on the back of all that information, what you can't even begin to explain away, is the fact our finances are horrendously worse now than they ever were under that labour government, and if you can find me saying anything positive about Blairite labour, then you've got some magic beans.


We owe more money, we have more debt, it's worse as a percentage of gdp, etc, etc, etc, etc.

But "man left note." shows how willfully people will lie and manipulate to defend ideology

and here again you have quoted the Guardian which comes back to my point sometimes you need a link to back up an opinion, in my opinion of course!

You can't be dictating for others to abide by these self made rules if you don't abide by them yourself in my humble opinion

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and here again you have quoted the Guardian which comes back to my point sometimes you need a link to back up an opinion, in my opinion of course!

You can't be dictating for others to abide by these self made rules if you don't abide by them yourself in my humble opinion

Providing a link is not the same as spamming the thread with stupid massive pictures and nonsense. It just isn't, and it shouldn't need to be explained if we're being honest.

it's the same reason I don't have a problem with TS posting the music vid and I only made light of the sheriff music vid - I know they're not going to start spamming. I don't think I could have been fairer - by saying all are welcome, but I want your opinions, I really think I've opened the thread up to more people than most threads on here