[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Everyone will remember she lied. To a court.

That's an awful lot of faith in the general public, most people can't remember what they had for lunch yesterday. Really, the truth is;

1) Most people don't know about this at all because most people don't really care about the Royal dramas, and

2) At least half of those who do know about this will have forgotten there was a court case at all in a year or two - let alone the details.


Because all of it only matters to those it matters to.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

That's an awful lot of faith in the general public, most people can't remember what they had for lunch yesterday. Really, the truth is;

1) Most people don't know about this at all because most people don't really care about the Royal dramas, and

2) At least half of those who do know about this will have forgotten there was a court case at all in a year or two - let alone the details.


Because all of it only matters to those it matters to.

I think you are very wrong. A lot of people have little interest in the Royal Family in general...however as individuals they can have a huge following. Diana is the greatest example...they loved her because of who she was not because she was part of the Royal Family. Likewise Meghan has created a following...but for all the wrong reasons. Unlike Diana she is hugely disliked in this country.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MissyToes

Diana is the greatest example...they loved her because of who she was not because she was part of the Royal Family.

Yes and they continued to adore her no matter what she actually did ... this is a prime example of why I'm right

People who liked H&M before the "omg court liiiieeess" still like them.

People who disliked them before have something new to crow about and still dislike them.

People who didn't care before don't care now.

that's the long and short of it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

PIERS MORGAN: Put your gloating champagne away, Princess
Pinocchio - the court of public opinion now knows you're a fork-tongued
devious manipulative piece of work who only wants to protect your privacy so
you can sell it



'If you tell the truth,' Mark Twain once observed, 'you don't have to
remember anything.'

I thought of this incontrovertible truism today when news broke that Meghan
Markle had 'won' her privacy court battle with the Mail on Sunday.

Her victory response was issued within seconds, on regal notepaper adorned
with a gold 'M' under a golden crown, and headlined: 'Statement from
Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex.'

Obviously everything I have drafted is with the understanding that it could be
leaked,' she texted Jason Knauf, then her communications secretary, 'so I
have been meticulous in my word choice, but please do let me know if
anything stands out for you as a liability.'

Indeed, she was so convinced the letter might be published that she even
deliberately used certain words to manipulate the public's emotions when
they read it.

Knauf told the court: 'She also asked a specific question regarding
addressing Mr Markle as 'daddy' in the letter, saying 'given I've only ever
called him daddy it may make sense to open as such (despite him being less
than paternal), and in the unfortunate event that it leaked it would pull at
the heart-strings'.'


Wow.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Pinocchio.html

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Yes and they continued to adore her no matter what she actually did ... this is a prime example of why I'm right

People who liked H&M before the "omg court liiiieeess" still like them.

People who disliked them before have something new to crow about and still dislike them.

People who didn't care before don't care now.

that's the long and short of it.

Yes you are right in what you say....but there are an awful lot of people like myself who DID like her but opinions changed because of the things she has done...probably more so than the examples you have given.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Yes and they continued to adore her no matter what she actually did ... this is a prime example of why I'm right

You are not right because her popularity has plummeted and many who liked her going back no longer do - and many who adored her are feeling let down and lied to. The WAY they exited the Royal Family, the manipulations, the Oprah interview, the hypocrisies, the many lies, the preaching, the way she treats others turned the majority right off.
Those continuing to adore her no matter what she does….well, I’ll refrain from comment….

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

You are not right because her popularity has plummeted and many who liked her going back no longer do - and many who adored her are feeling let down and lied to. The WAY they exited the Royal Family, the manipulations, the Oprah interview, the hypocrisies, the many lies, the preaching, the way she treats others turned the majority right off.
Those continuing to adore her no matter what she does….well, I’ll refrain from comment….

Who dislikes her now that didn't, let's say, after the Oprah interview.

Note that the argument here isn't "no one who used to like her dislikes her now" - it's that these "lies to the court" have made no real difference no matter how hard some people wish they would.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Who dislikes her now that didn't, let's say, after the Oprah interview.

Note that the argument here isn't "no one who used to like her dislikes her now" - it's that these "lies to the court" have made no real difference no matter how hard some people wish they would.

Plenty of people, from what I’ve seen and heard. If you don’t listen to the news or read anything other than this forum, then yes, there is nobody that admits she isn’t what they thought she was.
Even her biggest sycophant, Susannah Ried, admitted on air last week that it was getting harder and harder to defend her anymore.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jet

You are not right because her popularity has plummeted and many who liked her going back no longer do - and many who adored her are feeling let down and lied to. The WAY they exited the Royal Family, the manipulations, the Oprah interview, the hypocrisies, the many lies, the preaching, the way she treats others turned the majority right off.
Those continuing to adore her no matter what she does….well, I’ll refrain from comment….

Apart from that interview with the Bully Ellen what has she done? Id imagine she is viewed as toxic in the industry right now?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies

Apart from that interview with the Bully Ellen what has she done? Id imagine she is viewed as toxic in the industry right now?

"All The Jingle Ladies" is an anagram of "Eldest Anal Hell Jig"

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

"All The Jingle Ladies" is an anagram of "Eldest Anal Hell Jig"

You are obsessed with anal.