[bots]

he is spotifys biggest draw, there is no way they will dump him

[Crimson Dynamo]

trust that pair of bandwaggon snake-oil salesmen to try and be involved

[Alf]

I don't know what Joe Rogan has done or said regarding vaccvine. But it looks to me like he's over the target (on the money) otherwise there wouldn't be a big deal being made of it.

If he's wrong then OK, he's wrong, however he's entitled to have his opinion. All this attempt to cancel him to shut him up says he's likely correct.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he is spotifys biggest draw, there is no way they will dump him

Biggest podcast draw so I guess you could technically argue the exclusivity comes into play... but spotify's biggest draw (by far) is still as a music service and their subscriber base wouldn't drop all that significantly even if they had no podcasts at all. The issue they'd have rather than him being a draw, is a potential boycott if they were to can his podcast.

[arista]

Spotify have issued
a Covid Correction Statement.

But Joe Rogan stays.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't know what Joe Rogan has done or said regarding vaccvine. But it looks to me like he's over the target (on the money) otherwise there wouldn't be a big deal being made of it.

If he's wrong then OK, he's wrong, however he's entitled to have his opinion. All this attempt to cancel him to shut him up says he's likely correct.

His Miss Information
has Caused Deaths




It is a 3 Hour Session


Spotify has now Flagged it
with warnings.

[arista]

The Ex Royals have asked Spotify to flag it
Etc


Ref: USA Presenter on BBC World News 720P HD cameras.

[bots]

Spotify says that it is working to add advisory warnings to any podcast on its platform that discusses Covid-19.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Spotify says that it is working to add advisory warnings to any podcast on its platform that discusses Covid-19.

Seems like a sensible middle ground to me. Point out that Rogan's opinion is a layperson's opinion and not backed by science/he has no more knowledge of this than any bloke in the street. Because of course the real issue isn't what he's saying - it's that people idolise celebrities and take their word as having "more weight" than other people's when they simply don't (unless that person has actual professional experience or qualifications in that area).

[Niamh.]

What did he actually say that they're complaining about btw?

[Crimson Dynamo]

once again we are pandering to morons who cannot distinguish between a conversation between 2 people and scientific advice

the same morons who cant watch a tv show from the 70s and not realise that that program was not made today but 40 odd years ago and that every year you live things change.

I swear these "people" actually think that the "old days" were actually in black and white

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What did he actually say that they're complaining about btw?

Basically that young healthy adults should say no to the vaccine.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Basically that young healthy adults should say no to the vaccine.

Yes and not Fat ones
Fat people should get the vaccine.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

once again we are pandering to morons who cannot distinguish between a conversation between 2 people and scientific advice

To be fair, yes, from what I've seen he's not one of these ones being like "HERE is what you should do, FACT!!" ... he's generally quite clear that it's just his own thinking and opinion and that he isn't an expert.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Basically that young healthy adults should say no to the vaccine.

Thanks. I don't agree with him but that's just his opinion on it at the end of the day. I've said many times I'm pro the vaccine but I'm very anti this militant attitude towards people getting it and trying to silence anyone who says anything other than the vaccine is amazing and everyone should get it. It's not just this topic that people are acting like this over either, it's a weird Cult-ish era we're in where everyone has to follow the "accepted" opinions or you're public enemy number 1 and getting shut down (or trying to get shut down at least)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks. I don't agree with him but that's just his opinion on it at the end of the day. I've said many times I'm pro the vaccine but I'm very anti this militant attitude towards people getting it and trying to silence anyone who says anything other than the vaccine is amazing and everyone should get it. It's not just this topic that people are acting like this over either, it's a weird Cult-ish era we're in where everyone has to follow the "accepted" opinions or you're public enemy number 1 and getting shut down (or trying to get shut down at least)

I agree, I would probably feel differently if it was like for example measles and the case that vaccination significantly impacts or even halts transmission rates. I still would never see it mandatory (I wouldn't advocate for the measles vaccine being mandatory) but I would understand the idea of shutting down misinformation for the good of public health.

As things stand with Omicron, the data shows time and time again that vaccination drastically cuts the risk of severe illness but NOT of catching and transmitting the virus ... which makes it much more a case of (for me) individual choice. Not taking it would be a STUPID choice but not a public health hazard.

[Crimson Dynamo]

At least Boris and Whitty did not put out adverts saying:

“If you go out you can spread it, people will die.”

scaring people into being pathologically against people who are unvaccinated thinking its them what kills people

oh wait they did....

Government nudge unit ‘used grossly unethical tactics to scare public into Covid compliance’

MPs launch investigation after psychologists criticise totalitarian tactics of ‘deploying
fear, shame and scapegoating’ during pandemic

The Government’s “grossly unethical” uses of its “nudge unit” inflated fear
among the public during the Covid pandemic, psychologists have said -
prompting MPs to launch an investigation into scare adverts.

A group of psychologists have written to Parliament’s Public Administration
and Constitutional Affairs Committee, warning that a team of civil servants
dedicated to “nudging” public behaviour during the pandemic were
unaccountable and unethical.

The letter’s 40 professional signatories - led by Dr Gary Sidley, a retired
clinical psychologist - said they opposed the use of dramatic adverts, which
included slogans such as: “If you go out you can spread it, people will die.”


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...cused-scaring/

[bots]

how can anyone forget the ... if you socialise you will kill your granny

[user104658]

The Tories don't know how to use anything BUT scare tactics - it's how they've fought every political campaign for the last 50 years at the very least, from GE's to Brexit. Mostly 'cos it works.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

how can anyone forget the ... if you socialise you will kill your granny

That was a flat out lie as far as I'm concerned. One of them died in 1994 and one of them died before I was born. So HAH, uno reverse.

[Alf]

[glib]

His teeth look like a wolf’s

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

UNBELIEVABLE

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't know what Joe Rogan has done or said regarding vaccvine. But it looks to me like he's over the target (on the money) otherwise there wouldn't be a big deal being made of it.

If he's wrong then OK, he's wrong, however he's entitled to have his opinion. All this attempt to cancel him to shut him up says he's likely correct.

Personally I believe that anybody trying to cancel someone over Social Media should be banned from the platform, as nine times out of ten it can lead to bullying, harassment & even trying to harm a person's future job prospects.

People really need to start getting back into the mindset of accepting different opinions and debating those different opinions.

And I stand by this opinion even if Joe Rogan turns out to be completely wrong.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks. I don't agree with him but that's just his opinion on it at the end of the day. I've said many times I'm pro the vaccine but I'm very anti this militant attitude towards people getting it and trying to silence anyone who says anything other than the vaccine is amazing and everyone should get it. It's not just this topic that people are acting like this over either, it's a weird Cult-ish era we're in where everyone has to follow the "accepted" opinions or you're public enemy number 1 and getting shut down (or trying to get shut down at least)

This.

Plus the Vaccine is brand new in Medical terms, so it's good that people are at least a little bit cautious about it before just blindly accepting/forcing people to have it.

Personally I think the Vaccine is safe (or mostly safe at least) but I can understand people's paranoia with the fact that the leaders covered up Covid existing for months, plus the WHO lying about how infectious Covid actually is once the Governments generously told us that it exists.

My point basically being can we trust anyone when it comes to Covid related matters?