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the majority will come from the queens stash which arguably came from the people in days gone by, but it won't have come from the current public purse

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the majority will come from the queens stash which arguably came from the people in days gone by, but it won't have come from the current public purse

Pretty much this, it won't come from current public funds and I think people tend to underestimate the PERSONAL wealth of the Monarchy (especially the current monarch)... It's double figures billions. HIGH double figures. The Queen herself is "officially" worth over 500 million, £5 billion if you include "Royal Treasures" (she technically owns them as assets - but they could never be sold, leveraged or liquidated so that really means nothing... They just exist... I suppose that's what makes something "priceless").

Anyway her true personal wealth is realistically over £1 billion at this point anyway, she owns land all over the place that would likely sell for much more than its listed value currently.

And that's just the Queen.

For the family as a whole, £12m is nowt, from their own back pocket and nothing to do with public funds.

Although as you say... If you take the actual entire history of the Monarchy into account then yes of course it's all plunder at the end of the day. The British Empire was the largest and most successful the world has ever seen when it existed, and unlike now, up until a couple of hundred years ago the monarch was very much at the top of that pyramid. Spanning the whole globe, pilfering wealth from every corner

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Pretty much this, it won't come from current public funds and I think people tend to underestimate the PERSONAL wealth of the Monarchy (especially the current monarch)... It's double figures billions. HIGH double figures. The Queen herself is "officially" worth over 500 million, £5 billion if you include "Royal Treasures" (she technically owns them as assets - but they could never be sold, leveraged or liquidated so that really means nothing... They just exist... I suppose that's what makes something "priceless").

Anyway her true personal wealth is realistically over £1 billion at this point anyway, she owns land all over the place that would likely sell for much more than its listed value currently.

And that's just the Queen.

For the family as a whole, £12m is nowt, from their own back pocket and nothing to do with public funds.

Although as you say... If you take the actual entire history of the Monarchy into account then yes of course it's all plunder at the end of the day. The British Empire was the largest and most successful the world has ever seen when it existed, and unlike now, up until a couple of hundred years ago the monarch was very much at the top of that pyramid. Spanning the whole globe, pilfering wealth from every corner

Still baffled as to why in the modern world that lot are still going, other than to bring in tourists I can't see a single benefit of them....but none of my business I guess

Lets be honest here too, someone with as much power behind him as Andrew has was never going to face any real consequences, was he? I hope at least Victoria's charity can use some of that money to help other women and girls to get out of similar situations

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Still baffled as to why in the modern world that lot are still going, other than to bring in tourists I can't see a single benefit of them....but none of my business I guess

On the other hand, they bring in more money than they cost. When the only argument toward bringing them down is "it's the current year!!" then maybe they're fine

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Still baffled as to why in the modern world that lot are still going, other than to bring in tourists I can't see a single benefit of them....but none of my business I guess

Lets be honest here too, someone with as much power behind him as Andrew has was never going to face any real consequences, was he? I hope at least Victoria's charity can use some of that money to help other women and girls to get out of similar situations

If they abolished the monarchy and opened everything up to the public fully, there'd be a tourism SURGE for several decades. Maybe not the longer-term appeal of the "unique" active Monarchy but honestly I don't think that extends all that far beyond The Queen anyway ... I think what she herself represents is what holds a lot of the interest. No one is interested in King Charles ... that's just how it is ... and I swear William gets more dull by the day as well.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Still baffled as to why in the modern world that lot are still going, other than to bring in tourists I can't see a single benefit of them....but none of my business I guess

Lets be honest here too, someone with as much power behind him as Andrew has was never going to face any real consequences, was he? I hope at least Victoria's charity can use some of that money to help other women and girls to get out of similar situations

It depends how you want to view them
Yes they are called royals but they are able to fcuk up just the same as any other human.

Just to add , you talk about andrews power behind him, it’s simply not true because if he had any powerful contacts this problem would have gone away a long time ago

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It depends how you want to view them
Yes they are called royals but they are able to fcuk up just the same as any other human.

Just to add , you talk about andrews power behind him, it’s simply not true because if he had any powerful contacts this problem would have gone away a long time ago

Of course he has Power behind him, he has the Queen of England forking out 12million to keep him out of a courtroom

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course he has Power behind him, he has the Queen of England forking out 12million to keep him out of a courtroom

No way on this earth will the queen pay that money.

The queen being his mum means nothing, the whole world has seen him for who he is .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No way on this earth will the queen pay that money.

The queen being his mum means nothing, the whole world has seen him for who he is .

I mean it's in all the Newspapers saying she will pay though....

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the reality is that the government just need to give the odd tax break here and there, provide a few stately grants and the money is recovered almost instantly