[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

That rivalry from harry was going on when Diana was alive basically harry was jealous of his brother

When most of your family favour your sibling because a family firm hierarchy....it is human nature to develop deep rooted resentment. It is very hard to live in the shadow of someone and treated differently just because of the order of your birth. I feel for Harry.....I don't think its William's fault but I can empathise with Harry too

[Cherry Christmas]

Just watching clips of how close they were on the news, what a shame, its not what Diana would have wanted at all

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

When most of your family favour your sibling because a family firm hierarchy....it is human nature to develop deep rooted resentment. It is very hard to live in the shadow of someone and treated differently just because of the order of your birth. I feel for Harry.....I don't think its William's fault but I can empathise with Harry too

Where is the evidence of that

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Sherry hic mas

Where is the evidence of that

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

So that’s harry given a poor me pass, what’s Meghan’s excuse?

People come from poverty and unimaginable abuse but still make a life for themselves
Harry fcuk right off with his pity party, what he needs is a smack in the mouth and told to fcuk off

Maybe he wasn’t loved enough so now he can make a difference in his own kids lives but just remember when him and harry are flying to all these awards or harry is playing polo with Meg watching someone else is taking care of his kids

It’s pile of bull sh1t

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So that’s harry given a poor me pass, what’s Meghan’s excuse?

People come from poverty and unimaginable abuse but still make a life for themselves
Harry fcuk right off with his pity party, what he needs is a smack in the mouth and told to fcuk off

Maybe he wasn’t loved enough so now he can make a difference in his own kids lives but just remember when him and harry are flying to all these awards or harry is playing polo with Meg watching someone else is taking care of his kids

It’s pile of bull sh1t

Not giving anyone a free pass, just pointing out some pretty relevant points in the behaviour of the Royals in general and how they treat the children of the Heir or Monarch.

Not sure what you are saying about other people watching his kids - the same can be said about William and Kate's children. They all have nannies As do a lot of parents.

He really doesn't need a smack in the mouth - violence doesn't solve anything - you really don't have to take any notice of him if that's what you want as nothing he says will have ANY impact on your life.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

Man had sex so should be happy is a brilliant self-own.

[jet]

Harry and Meghan get called out by High Commissioner to Gabon, the Commonwealth‘s newest member …

” To think we would sign up blindly to be vassals to another Empire is to suggest we are foolish….many in Gabon feel patronised by these remarks “

It is racism to assume an African nation cannot make decisions about its collective future ….without the judgement of a white saviour Prince and his wife.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

Those things are terrible but have nothing to do with this discussion. There will always be people who are worse off than others in this world but you can't "win" a debate by saying that

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Those things are terrible but have nothing to do with this discussion. There will always be people who are worse off than others in this world but you can't "win" a debate by saying that

I can because there are people who are not living just surviving being tortured in their own head every day
Then you have a spoiled bastard claiming their life is hard
Give me a fcuking break

He has been paid millions to cry about how bad his life was and they both have layed it on extra thick

Look at that prick before Meghan came along he was happy, happy with his family happy being a royal happy with his brother and sister inlaw but when he got with that chancer things fell apart

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

Just replying to the bit about Andrew. I've seen a couple of interviews with ex security in the Palace, and both guys said (one of the guys worked pretty close for Andrew, not actually with him, if that makes sense) that Andrew was clearly the Queen's favourite. He would get away with being a complete sh!t to staff, be allowed questionable guests, and that the general feeling was the Queen would turn a blind eye to his awful behaviour. I mean he got away with so much, i can believe she favoured him.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Father Chris Mouse

Just replying to the bit about Andrew. I've seen a couple of interviews with ex security in the Palace, and both guys said (one of the guys worked pretty close for Andrew, not actually with him, if that makes sense) that Andrew was clearly the Queen's favourite. He would get away with being a complete sh!t to staff, be allowed questionable guests, and that the general feeling was the Queen would turn a blind eye to his awful behaviour. I mean he got away with so much, i can believe she favoured him.

He was by far her favourite child - that is very well known. The "Firm" is very different from just her though. She is said to have loved both William and Harry equally but treated them very differently - quite possibly turning a blind eye to Harry's indiscretions too but it doesn't stop the wider family, courtiers etc treating him as less important and that is the part that affects a child growing up. The actions of the many far outweigh the actions of the few

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

Sorry but I just don't buy it, I think Harry was SPOILED after Diana died and he was happy to be the spare and could let loose, the oldest child in any family tends to be the sensible one and the children who come after are given much more freedom as the eldest generally tests the water for the rest, its only in later life he has become bitter about it egged on by his awful wife

[Cherry Christmas]

Every parent in the world makes mistakes there is no perfect parent out there, the good thing for 99% of us is that our kids will never try to humiliate or embarrass us for money `

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Sherry hic mas

Sorry but I just don't buy it, I think Harry was SPOILED after Diana died and he was happy to be the spare and could let loose, the oldest child in any family tends to be the sensible one and the children who come after are given much more freedom as the eldest generally tests the water for the rest, its only in later life he has become bitter about it egged on by his awful wife

That's fine - the articles are there but you don't have to buy it. You asked for evidence and there are a number of articles and comments by trusted royal commentators was my whole point of quoting you.

Of course he was happier and carefree when he was younger(aren't most of us?) - as was Margaret and as was Andrew. With maturity comes retrospect and then you can look back and see things were not quite as rosy as you believed at the time.

I am sure he has been egged on by Meghan - she is American and most Americans have all been in therapy for years and look for reasons to blame their behaviour and actions on

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

That's fine - the articles are there but you don't have to buy it. You asked for evidence and there are a number of articles and comments by trusted royal commentators was my whole point of quoting you.

Of course he was happier and carefree when he was younger(aren't most of us?) - as was Margaret and as was Andrew. With maturity comes retrospect and then you can look back and see things were not quite as rosy as you believed at the time.

I am sure he has been egged on by Meghan - she is American and most Americans have all been in therapy for years and look for reasons to blame their behaviour and actions on

This made me laugh from the carol concert last night

The King, Queen Consort, Prince of Wales, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Princess of Wales and Countess of Wessex were pictured front and centre at the concert, holding candles while singing from the same hymn sheet.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

Princess Anne's, Edwards and surprisingly Andrew's kids all seem fine with each other.

[bots]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Princess Anne's, Edwards and surprisingly Andrew's kids all seem fine with each other.

none of them are constantly in the spotlight though, if they were, i'm sure there would be just as many stories about them.

Does anyone remember the story of harry as a youth, when he was found drunk as a skunk lying on the pavement?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by SantaslettertoMeghan

none of them are constantly in the spotlight though, if they were, i'm sure there would be just as many stories about them.

Does anyone remember the story of harry as a youth, when he was found drunk as a skunk lying on the pavement?

Andrew's kids were always scrutinised and called names by the press.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Princess Anne's, Edwards and surprisingly Andrew's kids all seem fine with each other.

Again, though - they were not part of the Heir bloodline so nothing was expected of any of them so they will have all been treated equally as siblings.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Again, though - they were not part of the Heir bloodline so nothing was expected of any of them so they will have all been treated equally as siblings.

They definitely had different "in lines" to the throne though, just like william and harry did.

I think you've believed too much you've read tbh.