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Old 16-06-2023, 08:15 AM #26
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People were literally killing themselves in lockdown whilst that load of scum were having parties
no one was having a party, that is an exaggeration based on dislike of a certain class/type of person

however the assumtion that the average Brit was too stupid to make their
own risk assessment whilst the top bods at the government level were is a
huge insult and disgrace. This pandemic was a real worry for a certain time in
first half of 2020 but it soon became clear that only the old with co-morbility
were in any danger yet for years we were subjected to ridiculous anti-
science and restriction based on the fear of those in power getting the blame
for anything. Not one person has been held accountable for the massive
overreaction to this virus that has had huge financial and health-related
consequences.



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I think the reaction has been disproportionate to the offence
If lying at the dispatch box is allowed, it sets a very very dangerous precedent for our country.

This is not disproportionate. This is literally defending democracy.

I find it hard to remain polite when debating these things, because unfortunately, the truth is that people like you, who enable his behaviour, are the very reason why this country is in its current state.

There was a time when people would have resigned for the notion that they had mislead parliament. This man lies, and lies about the lie and then trashes the committee that he requested conduct the inquiry.

The man has had £250k of our money to defend himself in this inquiry when he's earned £6m since September. During a cost of living crisis, when public services are beyond breaking point (his doing) and people can't afford to eat.

You're defending the indefensible.

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People were literally killing themselves in lockdown whilst that load of scum were having parties
Literally! I'm a police officer - I was literally enforcing the rules he set, all while the man who set them was partying?

As soon as I found out I refused to issue any more fines.

Embarrassing for me, embarrassing for the country.

The thing is, this is beyond parties now. The issue here is lying at the dispatch box, which I believe is a far more serious crime when we got the issues of misinformation, AI, deepfakes etc, we need to protect democracy and stop setting dangerous precedents.

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[If lying at the dispatch box is allowed, it sets a very very dangerous precedent for our country.]


Yes Sawyer


Tony Blair Lied over Iraq

so it is nothing new

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[If lying at the dispatch box is allowed, it sets a very very dangerous precedent for our country.]


Yes Sawyer


Tony Blair Lied over Iraq

so it is nothing new
While Blair gets away with lying about that,a so called party and so called lies is nothing, he has and still is imo being hounded when people who have done much worse are slithering away.he has gone and they still cant leave him be. maybe he should have sent people to war. We have ALL lied and yes I know he was PM,but a lie is still a lie .
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Literally! I'm a police officer - I was literally enforcing the rules he set, all while the man who set them was partying?

As soon as I found out I refused to issue any more fines.

Embarrassing for me, embarrassing for the country.

The thing is, this is beyond parties now. The issue here is lying at the dispatch box, which I believe is a far more serious crime when we got the issues of misinformation, AI, deepfakes etc, we need to protect democracy and stop setting dangerous precedents.
I'd have sacked you for failing to carry out your duty. Imagine a police officer picking and choosing which law he upholds and which he ignores.

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so it is nothing new
No one on the left wants to acknowledge that.
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I'd have sacked you for failing to carry out your duty. Imagine a police officer picking and choosing which law he upholds and which he ignores.

They probably do to be fair .. as they’re so stretched and stressed


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we don't like to acknowledge it, but the world is a completely different place to when blair was in power. Blair wouldnt get away with half of what he did in todays environment. So saying blair lied as well just doesn't cut it
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I think the reaction has been disproportionate to the offence

They just want him out of the picture ..


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we don't like to acknowledge it, but the world is a completely different place to when blair was in power. Blair wouldnt get away with half of what he did in todays environment. So saying blair lied as well just doesn't cut it
Tell that to the families of dead servicemen.
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Tell that to the families of dead servicemen.
its always used as an excuse that it happened in a different time,it was still a lie and sent many to thier deaths ,but it was in the past so lets let it go.
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its always used as an excuse that it happened in a different time,it was still a lie and sent many to thier deaths ,but it was in the past so lets let it go.
but you don't justify a misdeed today by the fact someone else did something similar 30 years ago. That is insane
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Blair not going to prison like he deserved to, doesn’t justify the desire for Boris to get away with all of his wrongs
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but you don't justify a misdeed today by the fact someone else did something similar 30 years ago. That is insane
It was twenty years ago and no one's justifying anything. People are drawing a comparison.
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No, he didn't go to prison. They made him a Middle East peace envoy and gave him a Nobel Peace Prize.
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No, he didn't go to prison. They made him a Middle East peace envoy and gave him a Nobel Peace Prize.
Yes,people turning a blind eye is wrong,we all know it happened a long time ago,but people still get jailed for misdeeds many years ago,so why is Blair any different,just because for example the Holocaust happened years ago does NOT excuse the foul deeds of someone in power, would the same people turning a blind eye to Blair do the same with Hitler, I sincerely hope not.
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December 2020 - more than 20 people at the function
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everyone knows they broke the rules, they knew from the first report of it, that's what is so funny
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Is that the party the met ‘investigated’ but found no evidence of wrong doing?
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Yes, by the Met POlice - who saw that video

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