[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redrose

Why do middle class gays like Jonathan Lis think homophobia is dead. It's alive and well on this planet. A Lesbian kindergarten teacher lost her job at Catholic school for marrying a woman. Even in Eurovision Olly's performance was labelled perverted and he got zero points from the audience while trans and non binary performers were praised and got into the top 5.

I honestly don't get the issue with Olly's performance.

It was no different to Slovenia's staging.

And btw to any feminists that hate on Stellar Blade because Eve's "not realistic" with how she looks, well the Slovenian woman at Eurovision has a similar physique to her, and she looked very real to me, so it kind of throws the "no women look like that" argument out of the window.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I honestly don't get the issue with Olly's performance.

It was no different to Slovenia's staging.

And btw to any feminists that hate on Stellar Blade because Eve's "not realistic" with how she looks, well the Slovenian woman at Eurovision has a similar physique to her, and she looked very real to me, so it kind of throws the "no women look like that" argument out of the window.

I still think that if Olly had chosen female dancers or a mix of male / female then he may have got a better reaction


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I still think that if Olly had chosen female dancers or a mix of male / female then he may have got a better reaction


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That does kind of show a bit of Homophobia on the audience's part if that really was such an issue for them.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That does kind of show a bit of Homophobia on the audience's part if that really was such an issue for them.

Maybe that’s the way society is ..

My beautiful wife and I are also fans of Will Young and obviously accepting of his sexuality from the beginning.

Now we have followed his career, loved all his music and even went to see him live at the MEN arena.

We love his personality as much as anything especially his guest appearances on tv shows where his personality shone through BUT a few years ago on one particular chat show he suddenly presented as being extremely feminine/camp and started to flirt with a male guest and even went and sat on his lap behaving kinda helpless and submissive , even girly / girlish.

Now that slightly surprised/shocked the audience somewhat ( and us two as well ) .


So maybe it was because it’s not something we had seen that often or maybe it was because we’d never seen him interacting with another guy before and it was a side of his personality that he’d kept hidden ?

Maybe in another 20 years… society will be more accepting / tolerant ?


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe that’s the way society is ..

My beautiful wife and I are also fans of Will Young and obviously accepting of his sexuality from the beginning.

Now we have followed his career, loved all his music and even went to see him live at the MEN arena.

We love his personality as much as anything especially his guest appearances on tv shows where his personality shone through BUT a few years ago on one particular chat show he suddenly presented as being extremely feminine/camp and started to flirt with a male guest and even went and sat on his lap behaving kinda helpless and submissive , even girly / girlish.

Now that slightly surprised/shocked the audience somewhat ( and us two as well ) .


So maybe it was because it’s not something we had seen that often or maybe it was because we’d never seen him interacting with another guy before and it was a side of his personality that he’d kept hidden ?

Maybe in another 20 years… society will be more accepting / tolerant ?


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Tbf I'm not saying that it isn't natural to be a little shocked at seeing something that you don't regularly see in your day to day life (like tbh I don't regularly hang out with any Homosexual couples in my personal life either) but that's more to do with me being a shut in.

Plus I do understand that for anybody in older age groups are especially going to be shocked by Olly's performance, and I don't think that those people should be shamed for that.

However the people that hated on him because of the performance, and got really personal about him is what I didn't really understand.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf I'm not saying that it isn't natural to be a little shocked at seeing something that you don't regularly see in your day to day life (like tbh I don't regularly hang out with any Homosexual couples in my personal life either) but that's more to do with me being a shut in.

Plus I do understand that for anybody in older age groups are especially going to be shocked by Olly's performance, and I don't think that those people should be shamed for that.

However the people that hated on him because of the performance, and got really personal about him is what I didn't really understand.

True enough


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