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Diane Abbott is 70 years old with a "serious long-term health condition". Is she really the best person for the job?
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there is no upper age limit for working. There used to be, but then they stopped providing enough cash for many pensioners to live in reasonable comfort

Ultimately, it is up to the selection process and the voting public to decide if the person is up to the job
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Diane Abbott is 70 years old with a "serious long-term health condition". Is she really the best person for the job?
The Locals want her.
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there is no upper age limit for working. There used to be, but then they stopped providing enough cash for many pensioners to live in reasonable comfort

Ultimately, it is up to the selection process and the voting public to decide if the person is up to the job
Yes, I realise, I was a political agent for a while. And I realise also there is no upper age.limit to working. However, on top of her age, she has a serious health condition. Apart from the fact I think she's an idiot, she doesn't seem like she's the candidate who can give 100%. Just my take, of course...
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The Locals want her.
I know. What I can't understand is, why?
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I know. What I can't understand is, why?

Better the devil you know
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Yes, I realise, I was a political agent for a while. And I realise also there is no upper age.limit to working. However, on top of her age, she has a serious health condition. Apart from the fact I think she's an idiot, she doesn't seem like she's the candidate who can give 100%. Just my take, of course...
yeah, i do agree. Did you watch Biden and Trump yesterday?

Trump looked like a broken man, he talked some absolute batcrap and was rambling like a fool for 45 mins. Biden did 45 seconds of prepared uninspiring monologue and was then asked a question and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights

Why are people voting for people not up to the job
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What is her health condition?

I noticed she was tremoring a lot when speaking the other day
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What is her health condition?

I noticed she was tremoring a lot when speaking the other day

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What is her health condition?

I noticed she was tremoring a lot when speaking the other day
there are only 2 or 3 things that it could reasonably be, so i don't think it's any big secret
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yeah, i do agree. Did you watch Biden and Trump yesterday?

Trump looked like a broken man, he talked some absolute batcrap and was rambling like a fool for 45 mins. Biden did 45 seconds of prepared uninspiring monologue and was then asked a question and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights

Why are people voting for people not up to the job
I did watch it, yes... but I watched it through my fingers. It was like watching a horrible car crash.
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What is her health condition?

I noticed she was tremoring a lot when speaking the other day
…so far as I know, she was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes in 2015…which is something that can be very controllable so long as she’s balancing her work life to factor in the self care to do that…/…it’s very do-able, anyway…
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…so far as I know, she was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes in 2015…which is something that can be very controllable so long as she’s balancing her work life to factor in the self care to do that…/…it’s very do-able, anyway…
Yes Ammi she has diabetes, also though there possibly is other health issues.
Then she had the trauma with her son a while back.
Then of course the vile comments about her by that Con donor.

However, I'm left puzzled, after her activities this week it astounds me she wants to stand in this election again FOR Labour.

She knows the procedures of the Labour Party and the NEC likely better than anyone.
She was under suspension.
Once the investigation was ended and then the recommendations finalised later.

She was restored to the Labour whip with her MP status.
She knows full well that in a coming election she needs then to be reselected by her constituency.
Which also was done and in place.

So she knew, then as with ALL the other potential MPs and candidates the next stage is the NEC rubber stamps the candidates for the election.

However she's chosen to create an almighty fuss over the last few days.
Trashing the Labour Party for it's treatment of her and particularly Starmer too.

So in light of that, why she would then want to seek election as an MP to have Starmer as PM and Labour in government.
Is puzzling.
After her public outburst.

I actually do agree with Livia here, she unfortunately doesn't seem like she would give 100% for both personal and health reasons now.
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Loyalty to the party and it's leader is demanded, and Diane has shown that. Maybe she just feels she deserves to be treated like someone who has served for 37 years, and not as a political pawn for Starmers Stalinist purge of any dissenting voice.

Even Blair had dissenting voices to contend with, and he didn't cry about it constantly, because even Blair understood that labour should at least pretend to represent different voices.
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Why is this dude fit to be a lab candidate to the party faithful, but Diane isn't? Seems like a weird hear no evil, see no evil approach to what is actually happening, as opposed to what folks want to believe is happening.

Starmer was Mr. Reverse brexit in 2019, now look at who he wants to have on his side...

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Loyalty to the party and it's leader is demanded, and Diane has shown that. Maybe she just feels she deserves to be treated like someone who has served for 37 years, and not as a political pawn for Starmers Stalinist purge of any dissenting voice.

Even Blair had dissenting voices to contend with, and he didn't cry about it constantly, because even Blair understood that labour should at least pretend to represent different voices.
…yeah, I do think that’s exactly it tbh…I really feel quite conflicted with Diane because I do feel that she should stand if that’s what she feels she’d like to do…but I also don’t want her to subjected to what social media and the public can be with her…in how they’ve been in the past at times…so yeah, very conflicted with our Diane…
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…it’s still a game for the boys and the ladies that the boys have approved to be on their team…
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…yeah, I do think that’s exactly it tbh…I really feel quite conflicted with Diane because I do feel that she should stand if that’s what she feels she’d like to do…but I also don’t want her to subjected to what social media and the public can be with her…in how they’ve been in the past at times…so yeah, very conflicted with our Diane…
She obviously has a tough skin to do what she's done for as long as she has, so if she feels up for it, it shouldn't be for anyone else to concern troll about her health.

With labour about to have an unassailable majority, we do need at least a few in the party unafraid to criticise the tory policies they have already vowed to continue.
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She obviously has a tough skin to do what she's done for as long as she has, so if she feels up for it, it shouldn't be for anyone else to concern troll about her health.

With labour about to have an unassailable majority, we do need at least a few in the party unafraid to criticise the tory policies they have already vowed to continue.
…yeah, I know…I don’t disagree and that’s part of why I feel conflicted…I’m not a medical person, it’s not for me to comment in her health etc…and yeah, she may have a ‘thick skin’ as you say but I still hate to see those cruel headlines and articles that can be written about her and we know the tabloids are relentless…but that’s a ‘me problem’ I realise that….she should stand if she feel that she wants to stand, I’m sure she knows that it’ll turn a spotlight on her that can be very unkind at times…
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