[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Joey, if labour end up with over 400 seats in the election, there is no way they will suggest PR

It's in their interests to keep the current system

Actually there is.

We in Labour well realise that power doesn't last.
Apart from Blair and Wilson in the 1966 election.
From then Labour has never won elections with anything other than tiniest of majorities.

I am a member of the Labour Party bots, I know what we want, the Unions want PR too and so do Labour voters

Blair got over 400 seats in 1997 and 2001.
Then we were out for 14 years this time.
18 years the previous time from 1979.

It will happen again and there's only one way to ensure no Party and particularly the Cons never get absolute power again for the minority of votes.
I'm well aware PR would have the Cons panicking and needing to change their underwear a lot

If PR was done rght and with the support of all other Parties I think it will make for better politics.

PR was passed overwhelmingly at Labours conference.
One swallow doesn't make a Sumner.

You can scoff all you like.
PR isn't about this election it would be about who gets to lead power in future elections.
So stopping the Cons getting absolute power again with big majorities for 43.6% of the votes.
With long periods of government too.

That is what PR would be about.
As it would for any other Party too.
IF Labour wins with over 400 seats this time.
Then all the more reason to adopt PR, to ensure what Labour does cannot be dismantled by a future minority voted but large overall majority government in the future

Because sure as day follows night.
A 400+ majority would dwindle away over an election or 2 and without PR the then inevitable outcome will be again a long period of Con government.
So PR is the long term answer to preventing that.
Labour could then be the last party to govern under this ridiculous first past the post electoral system.

That's definitely another thing to aim for.
However no doubt the Cons would be absolutely smouldering.