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Old 04-07-2024, 04:25 PM #1326
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For many people, it's not apathy to not vote, it's a conscious choice to not vote. There is a big difference
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For many people, it's not apathy to not vote, it's a conscious choice to not vote. There is a big difference

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but what do you wish for?
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but what do you wish for?
i want the traditional tory party back

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i want the traditional tory party back

I assume that could happen.
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Today, Palestine is on the ballot.

If you re-elect me as an Independent MP in Islington North, I promise to always stand
up for the people of Gaza, and for the only path to a just and lasting peace: an end to
the occupation of Palestine.

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Corbyn loses his seat around 2/3am this evening
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Corbyn loses his seat around 2/3am this MORNING
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Corbyn loses his seat around 2/3am this evening
1 poll has him winning and another has him losing, so it should be a good popcorn moment with a couple of recounts to keep us busy in between the 15 cabinet ministers
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Our Kate arrives with Glen and Jordan

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Jeremy Corbyn
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Today, Palestine is on the ballot.

If you re-elect me as an Independent MP in Islington North, I promise to always stand
up for the people of Gaza, and for the only path to a just and lasting peace: an end to
the occupation of Palestine.

https://x.com/mishtal/status/1808879084425924697

No it isn't m8

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Luxury beliefs.

The only people who see a war that's on the other side of the Med as a priority in the UK show they either aren't facing any real issues, or don't care about those who are.
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Old 04-07-2024, 05:10 PM #1335
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Just goes to show that Boris carries the least blame for Tory defeat

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I just couldnt vote labour now after the blood scandal cover up. Dont know how anyone could.
There's no party that doesn't have one scandal or another though so you either have to pick one, or not vote. IIRC the blood scandal spanned both Labour and Tory govts. in the 70's and 80's, it didn't end until the early 90's.

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i think there are going to be a ton of recounts tonight. They reckon a third of seats will end up with majorities less than 2000. So it could be a very long night
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There's no party that doesn't have one scandal or another though so you either have to pick one, or not vote. IIRC the blood scandal spanned both Labour and Tory govts. in the 70's and 80's, it didn't end until the early 90's.
I've voted one that wasnt involved in the blood scandal.
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What we are picking up is a strong number of Labour voters certainly down South, will be swinging behind the LibDems to help keep out a Con or defeat a Con.

There's likely to be more than usual tactical voting on a more planned scale this time.
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No one isnt voting Tory because of Liz Truss that is bollocks, but they are for Partygate and for the huge increase in illegal migrants and failed multiculturalism

50% of Hounslow is non-Brittish

London is cooked

that is why
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i think there are going to be a ton of recounts tonight. They reckon a third of seats will end up with majorities less than 2000. So it could be a very long night
Apparently over 2,500 postal votes not delivered in Kemi Badenoch's constituency as well so any majority under that could be subject to a recount as one example
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No one isnt voting Tory because of Liz Truss that is bollocks, but they are for Partygate and for the huge increase in illegal migrants and failed multiculturalism

50% of Hounslow is non-Brittish

London is cooked

that is why
Strongly disagree, Truss was the single biggest blow to the Tories credibility

Party gate was forgiveable especially as Boris himself barely did anything. Crashing the economy was not
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Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100
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Truss caused actual financial harm to the country. Having a drink at a party did not
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Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100

even though i haven't voted, i'm still very interested in the result and what the public saying fu to the tories will do to the future political landscape. It will also be very funny if the likes of Cleverly lose their seats
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Making Liz Truss Prime Minister (and the process of that leadership election) was a huge political own-goal, and the main reason they are so far behind in the opinion polls. The government lost their credibility very quickly.

Beyond that though, this is a Covid election. It is part of the pattern seen across Western democracies of governments becoming unpopular and being voted out as countries deal with the after-effects of the pandemic.
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Making Liz Truss Prime Minister (and the process of that leadership election) was a huge political own-goal, and the main reason they are so far behind in the opinion polls. The government lost their credibility very quickly.

Beyond that though, this is a Covid election. It is part of the pattern seen across Western democracies of governments becoming unpopular and being voted out as countries deal with the after-effects of the pandemic.
Well that's true, I do think any government would probably fall after this long in power and particularly when there have been global events that would have severely negatively impacted people even under the best government

The Tories could have done a little bit less badly than they will end up having done though
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i think there is just general dissatisfaction across the largest financial countries with populations just not getting the reward they feel they deserve for many, many years. I think this would be true even without covid and the war in ukraine.

This is also why immigration is a hot topic. When the economy is doing really well, no-one gives a stuff about immigration
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i think there is just general dissatisfaction across the largest financial countries with populations just not getting the reward they feel they deserve for many, many years. I think this would be true even without covid and the war in ukraine.

This is also why immigration is a hot topic. When the economy is doing really well, no-one gives a stuff about immigration
Yeah agreed, the general global trend of the last 50 years has been towards more open borders and freer trade but people don't feel like that delivers for them anymore. We're at maybe the biggest tipping point in geopolitics and economic progression since WWI
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