[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The conservatives have normalised corruption and contempt for anyone outside their circle for the last 5 years or so, they have dropped the bar on competence to an entirely new low, so the situation we have now is one where the new government only needs to make slight improvements for the bar to have been raised significantly. The funny thing is that I am viewing it from somewhere on the centre right and I was genuinely happy when I saw so many of the senior members of the previous government slung out on their asses one by one. They let the country down and they paid the price

Labour are / will be just the same the crossover will be seemless .


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Labour are / will be just the same the crossover will be seemless .


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i actually disagree. People have forgotten just how low Boris brought everything down. If even 1 or 2 of the new governments cabinet prove to be in anyway competent, it will be a huge improvement over what we had under Boris and beyond. Everything in politics under the tories since Boris has been a huge drama. If we can go a week without constant bickering among tory mp's it will be like living in a new country

[arista]

Today PM Starmer
is doing his first cabinet.

Then we are to get a press conference in number 11
media room.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i actually disagree. People have forgotten just how low Boris brought everything down. If even 1 or 2 of the new governments cabinet prove to be in anyway competent, it will be a huge improvement over what we had under Boris and beyond. Everything in politics under the tories since Boris has been a huge drama. If we can go a week without constant bickering among tory mp's it will be like living in a new country

That's very fair of you bots and it is sad for me to see usual Con supporters feeling so let down by their usual Party.

I'm only 32 but I doubt post war, has there ever been such a dysfunctional term of government since the one just ended.

I hope my Party will succeed in the main
I'm looking for more fairness, justice and compassion all along with I hope to a demonstration of more competence now too.

Starmer is not my choice of leader however I think he has the chance to surprise for the better.
That's my own hope anyhow.

Plus to see really dealing with serious issues the Nation has, ending the far from entertaining circus that was brought to an end on Thursday.

[arista]

Emily Thornberry

Not in this new cabinet

[arista]

Meanwhile In France
illegal migrants, loving Starmer getting rid of Rwanda

[bots]

well, he didn't really get rid of it given that it never happened

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well, he didn't really get rid of it given that it never happened

Sure but he has blocked that plan,
In France Illegal Migrants
loving PM Starmer

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure but he has blocked that plan,
In France Illegal Migrants
loving PM Starmer

you are just falling for a narrative. Illegal immigrants couldnt give a crap who is in power. It's only an issue if they get caught, and most don't get caught

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i actually disagree. People have forgotten just how low Boris brought everything down. If even 1 or 2 of the new governments cabinet prove to be in anyway competent, it will be a huge improvement over what we had under Boris and beyond. Everything in politics under the tories since Boris has been a huge drama. If we can go a week without constant bickering among tory mp's it will be like living in a new country

We shall see …

I won’t how many weeks honeymoon Starmer will get !


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[Zizu]

Labour’s last time in power .!!!


As I recall they left our finances in a proper state and from memory it meant the Tories had to get creative and borrow/ spend even more for a time -to avoid a catastrophe


Government debt under labour 1997-2010

Government debt under Labour was a major factor in the elections of 2010 and 2015. But to what extent did the Labour government plunge the economy into debt ?



•1997/98 – 40.4% of GDP
•2007/08 – 36.4% of GDP
•2010/11 – 60.0% of GDP.



Budget Deficit
The level of Net government borrowing at 2011/12 prices
•1997-98 – Ł 7.8 bn
•2007-08 – Ł 40.3 bn
•2010-11 – Ł 145.1 bn

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you are just falling for a narrative. Illegal immigrants couldnt give a crap who is in power. It's only an issue if they get caught, and most don't get caught

PM Starmer is going
to stop all that.

He claims

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Labour’s last time in power .!!!


As I recall they left our finances in a proper state and from memory it meant the Tories had to get creative and borrow/ spend even more for a time -to avoid a catastrophe


Government debt under labour 1997-2010

Government debt under Labour was a major factor in the elections of 2010 and 2015. But to what extent did the Labour government plunge the economy into debt ?



•1997/98 – 40.4% of GDP
•2007/08 – 36.4% of GDP
•2010/11 – 60.0% of GDP.



Budget Deficit
The level of Net government borrowing at 2011/12 prices
•1997-98 – Ł 7.8 bn
•2007-08 – Ł 40.3 bn
•2010-11 – Ł 145.1 bn

There was a worldwide financial crisis sparked by the banks in 2008.
That hit America, hit acrisd Europe and over to Asia too.
I notice you omit to mention that.

A global financial crisis mostly due to recklessness of the Banking industry.
Which no one, not even the international expert financial institutions including the IFS never saw coming.

However yes that's how it ended up in 2010/11.

I notice too though, you avoid commenting on the years after 2010/11.
When Labour wasn't in power.
There on the chart showing how things got far worse under the Conservatives.

[arista]

PM Starmer is about to go Live
on All News & 2 Radio stations

[arista]

LIVE now


With his 2 Big Flags,


In the Media Room

[arista]

He just stated
tomorrow Sunday
he will fly to each of the 4 nations
in the UK.

[arista]

BBC asks about his "Change" plan


SkyNewsHD asks about his low poll ratings

[arista]

PM Starmer to Fly to Washington DC
on Tuesday

[arista]

Ch4HD news reporter
asks how long until it gets better?

PM Starmer says Prisons need to be built

[arista]

There were loads of Journalists
still waiting with questions.


Then Suddenly PM Starmer
did a runner

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I notice too though, you avoid commenting on the years after 2010/11.
When Labour wasn't in power.
There on the chart showing how things got far worse under the Conservatives.

I said that the financial situation was so desperate when labour went out that the Tories had to spend their way out of a disaster


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[arista]

PM Starmers
The 22 Main Cabinet members

Rachel Reeves - Chancellor
Yvette Cooper - Home Secretary
Bridget Phillipson - Education Secretary
Wes Streeting - Health Secretary
Louise Haigh - Secretary of State for Transport
Lisa Nandy - Culture, Media Secretary
Pat McFadden - Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
David Lammy - Foreign Secretary
Ed Milliband - Energy Secretary
Shabana Mahmood - Lord Chancellor of Justice
Hilary Benn - Morther Ireland Secretay
Angla Raynor - Deputy PM, Leveling-up Secretary
Darren Jones - Cheif Secretary to the Treasury
Lucy Powell - Leader of the House of Commons
Ian Murray - Scottish Secretary
Jo Stevens - Welsh Secretary
Steve Reed- Environment Secretary
John Healey - Defense Secretary
Peter Kyle - Science & Innovations Secretary
Jim McMahon - Leveling Up Minister
Anneliese Dodds - Labour Minister for Women
Richard Hemer KC - Attorney-general


Taken from Saturdays Times Paper

[arista]

[Zizu]

Gawd help us !

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ised-ASAP.html