[Zizu]

As things stand they only serve 40% of the sentence don’t they.. less the time they are held


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As things stand they only serve 40% of the sentence don’t they.. less the time they are held


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The judge decreed 50% in this case.

The 40% will only be used to help open up room in prisons likely over a short period.

Once that's done the 40% will no longer probably apply.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The judge decreed 50% in this case.

The 40% will only be used to help open up room in prisons likely over a short period.

Once that's done the 40% will no longer probably apply.

On that note .

Labour were complaining that the jails were at dangerous levels and they may have to let loads out early ..


Today after nearly 500 arrests their spokesman said there was plenty of room for all these people !!


No wonder the don’t trust governments ( all parties). !!


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

On that note .

Labour were complaining that the jails were at dangerous levels and they may have to let loads out early ..


Today after nearly 500 arrests their spokesman said there was plenty of room for all these people !!


No wonder the don’t trust governments ( all parties). !!


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There are prison places but the prisons are heading to be full.
It was the Cons who began the policy of letting prisoners out a bit earlier..
They were going to do the same thing almost exactly.

It's not a uniquely Labour thing.

IF as it was said, the prison population stayed the same, then by next year the prisons would be full.

No one ever said they were FULL now.
It was the Con govt who admitted they were now at dangerously high levels.
Labour agreed they were.

It's not as dramatic as you're making it out and only moaning at Labour as usual while skirting past the fact over 14 years, under Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss AND Sunak.
The prison population has reached dangerously high levels and expected to be full within around a year +.

The early release programme to begin in September hopefully.
Will reduce the prison population substantially.
So these being sentenced now easily accommodated thankfully.

Everywhere across the justice system it's known more places are needed in years to come.
It's not a question of trust, it's simple facts.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are prison places but the prisons are heading to be full.
It was the Cons who began the policy of letting prisoners out a bit earlier..
They were going to do the same thing almost exactly.

It's not a uniquely Labour thing.

IF as it was said, the prison population stayed the same, then by next year the prisons would be full.

No one ever said they were FULL now.
It was the Con govt who admitted they were now at dangerously high levels.
Labour agreed they were.

It's not as dramatic as you're making it out and only moaning at Labour as usual while skirting past the fact over 14 years, under Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss AND Sunak.
The prison population has reached dangerously high levels and expected to be full within around a year +.

The early release programme to begin in September hopefully.
Will reduce the prison population substantially.
So these being sentenced now easily accommodated thankfully.

Everywhere across the justice system it's known more places are needed in years to come.
It's not a question of trust, it's simple facts.

Well a couple of weeks ago they were full to dangerous levels … nothing had changed yet today they have plenty of space for the hungry being are arrested !


So which is it .. both labour statements


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well a couple of weeks ago they were full to dangerous levels … nothing had changed yet today they have plenty of space for the hungry being are arrested !


So which is it .. both labour statements


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They ARE at dangerous levels.
The Cons said exactly the same well before the election.

What exactly is your point or what don't you understand.

Are you going to just nitpick wording as to both and totally ignore the mess the Cons left the prison service in.
Or even just try to welcome attempts to ease the massively overcrowding problem.

For someone who doesn't even vote you like to make a lot of moaning about politicians and oddly only particularly Labour ones!!!

For crying out loud.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They ARE at dangerous levels.
The Cons said exactly the same well before the election.

What exactly is your point or what don't you understand.

Are you going to just nitpick wording as to both and totally ignore the mess the Cons left the prison service in.
Or even just try to welcome attempts to ease the massively overcrowding problem.

For someone who doesn't even vote you like to make a lot of moaning about politicians and oddly only particularly Labour ones!!!

For crying out loud.

The Tories are nothing to do with my question !!

Its a matter of honesty .,

Are the hundreds of spaces or are the jails crammed.

If they are at dangerous levels then how can there be spaces for the hundreds facing jail ?


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For someone who doesn't even vote you like to make a lot of moaning about politicians and oddly only particularly Labour ones!!!

For crying out loud.

That’s bollox

I criticise all politicians/parties apart from Boris who has a good heart imho


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