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Old 01-10-2024, 07:01 PM #1
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And people were really criticising Kemi Badenoch's article today
What do you mean?

She was criticised for talking about cultures not being equally valid? Is that an opinion you share?

There are between 30-40k Syrian born nationals living in the UK, and yet they're not all committing machete attacks, so really don't understand where you're coming from.
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What do you mean?

She was criticised for talking about cultures not being equally valid? Is that an opinion you share?

There are between 30-40k Syrian born nationals living in the UK, and yet they're not all committing machete attacks, so really don't understand where you're coming from.
Yes absolutely

Equally 'Syrian born nationals' are not a homogeneous entity. Some can subscribe to dangerous cultural values and some won't
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Equally 'Syrian born nationals' are not a homogeneous entity. Some can subscribe to dangerous cultural values and some won't
I'm shocked that you would admit that.

I agree they are not an homogenous group, but I'm not the one that ranks cultures. Let's not pretend we're talking about terrorists/non-terrorists here.
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I'm shocked that you would admit that.

[] but I'm not the one that ranks cultures.
How is ranking cultures a bad thing? The best you can say about Syria is that hijab isn't mandatory; but women still have limited rights, as do LGBT people, and grown men can marry 13 year old girls. I think saying that makes Syrian culture less-good than ours is pretty fair.
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How is ranking cultures a bad thing? The best you can say about Syria is that hijab isn't mandatory; but women still have limited rights, as do LGBT people, and grown men can marry 13 year old girls. I think saying that makes Syrian culture less-good than ours is pretty fair.
Syria has a rich history and culture of thousands of years. Child brides are a problem in every part of the world where religious conservatism is a thing. Look up child marriage in the US.

When countries become the arbiter of the validity of other cultures, it never ends well.
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Syria has a rich history and culture of thousands of years. Child brides are a problem in every part of the world where religious conservatism is a thing. Look up child marriage in the US.

When countries become the arbiter of the validity of other cultures, it never ends well.


But do you judge all those cultures as being less good than ours like kemi does? Or is marrying children ok to you if its far far away?
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But do you judge all those cultures as being less good than ours like kemi does? Or is marrying children ok to you if its far far away?
That's 2 separate questions.

I think religion is probably the worst man made invention of all time, and I think child marriage/any form of abuse to be one of the most heinous acts imaginable.

I hate the fact that I'm playing along with this, but 2% of girls are married before 15, and 13% are married before 18 in Syria.

0.01% is still too many, but I wouldn't say this is representative of every Syrian that lives today, and every Syrian that's ever lived in the towns and cities dating back to biblical times.


https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/learn...eitra%20(23%25).

300,00 child brides married in the US, between 2000-2018. No one is suggesting Americans are not a good cultural match to come to the Uk.

I didn't watch the whole Kemi interview, so was she talking specifically about Syrian child brides, or is that where the conversation has had to go so we can all ignore what is really being said? Genuine question?
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