[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Maru

There shouldn't be an autism card, Lebanon card, etc. If she criticised Khaled on his own merits rather than whatever powergames she perceives people could be playing in life, she wouldn't have painted such a big target on her back. It also advertises to everyone there just how easily it could have been one of them. None of them are safe from her "assessments".

Hanah nominated her for fixating on her character qualities. (That was telling.) Yet she still tried to console her in private, give her a pep talk (on live feed) and encourage her to take a different route. Is Hanah now fake because she didn't tell her then and there how Ali makes her actually feel?

I wonder how different the house dynamic would be if she had left. Would people who normally wouldn't be able to have conversations finally feel they can have them without someone hyper-scrutinizing? I took Hanah trying to encourage Ali to chill herself out as helping herself also, as it doesn't seem like it is very comfortable there atm. We have seen very little of Hanah standing out and I wonder if this is why because Ali is that person who needs to step in to allegedly defend people (she is hurting them more than helping) and tends to treat them like puzzle pieces in the process rather than letting them just get on with it...

You’re right, there absolutely shouldn’t be any card, that’s what I was saying. No Hanah isn’t fake for not saying it there and then but then that’s not the same because Ali isn’t accusing Khaled of saying things about people behind their backs and then not saying it to their faces, she’s saying he carefully looks at how he’s being portrayed to fit the good guy narrative in front of others which I agree with, it’s not genuine.

I don’t agree with how she’s put it across but I don’t disagree with her points about him.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

You’re right, there absolutely shouldn’t be any card, that’s what I was saying. No Hanah isn’t fake for not saying it there and then but then that’s not the same because Ali isn’t accusing Khaled of saying things to about people behind their backs and then not saying it to their faces, she’s saying he carefully looks at how he’s being portrayed to fit the good guy narrative in front of others which I agree with, it’s not genuine.

I don’t agree with how she’s put it across but I don’t disagree with her points about him.

Ali's accusation is that he isn't being him and that he very treats people differently than how he actually feels, but no basis for that is given other than it *can* be perceived this way. I think that way of analyzing others, sadly, can apply to any one of the HMs at any given moment.

Hanah didn't say anything behind her back to others in the house and neither has Khaled, but they are both required to nominate. Both are very nice people from what we can tell but only one of them has had the misfortune of falling on the bad side of Ali.

I think it's because Khaled won't let her in to tinker with him emotionally and he knows better than to feed her and that gives her nothing to work with. That apparently drives her insane. She knows she can't use that and fair play, he had her figured out early on. That makes him a potential threat to Ali. Hanah and the other people there have fed into her complex and haven't really left her radar. I think that is why I think someone like her would be OK, even if it is unclear atm where her support is, but not Khaled...

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Maru

Ali's accusation is that he isn't being him and that he very treats people differently than how he actually feels, but no basis for that is given other than it *can* be perceived this way. I think that way of analyzing others, sadly, can apply to any one of the HMs at any given moment.

Hanah didn't say anything behind her back to others in the house and neither has Khaled, but they are both required to nominate. Both are very nice people from what we can tell but only one of them has had the misfortune of falling on the bad side of Ali.

I think it's because Khaled won't let her in to tinker with him emotionally and he knows better than to feed her and that gives her nothing to work with. That apparently drives her insane. She knows she can't use that and fair play, he had her figured out early on. That makes him a potential threat to Ali. Hanah and the other people there have fed into her complex and haven't really left her radar. I think that is why I think someone like her would be OK, even if it is unclear atm where her support is, but not Khaled...

But then that’s just your opinion of him, I can absolutely see why Ali would think that he’s putting on a facade because he does constantly look like he’s trying to say the right or nicest thing and maybe that’s just him but it feels incredibly false and I don’t see how that’s not a valid reason in anyone’s eyes because he literally comes in saying these impassioned speeches (like when he won HoH) for no reason so he doesn’t rock the boat.

Obviously people aren’t always gonna get on with everyone they meet but there’s a very clear difference in how different people speak in the house to Khaled and they manage to come across without any scrutiny and it’s because they don’t always try to be the good guy like he does.