[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

This is the clip, he was giving her a piggyback around the living room a few minutes later

He took his hand away the minute he put it on her neck and said "I can't do that" worrying that's the only reason he stopped though

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He took his hand away the minute he put it on her neck and said "I can't do that" worrying that's the only reason he stopped though

I hope he means I can't do that in general rather than just because he's in the house. They were fine a few minutes later.

Unrelated, but just catching up and, in a head to head vote, it's getting to the point where I might vote to evict Lily over Ali.

[Ammi]

..I don’t understand why a male would put their hands on a female’s throat as any kind of ‘grab reaction’ even if it was messing around etc at the time…it seems an odd ‘first grab’…well, he held her wrist first and then put his hand on her throat…how odd…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don’t understand why a male would put their hands on a female’s throat as any kind of ‘grab reaction’ even if it was messing around etc at the time…it seems an odd ‘first grab’…well, he held her wrist first and then put his hand on her throat…how odd…

To me it comes across as a dominating move, I really dislike it, even in a "messing around way"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

To me it comes across as a dominating move, I really dislike it, even in a "messing around way"

…that exactly, not aggressive but very dominant …a throat is an odd place/not natural place to place a hand like that in a holding stance…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that exactly, not aggressive but very dominant …a throat is an odd place/not natural place to place a hand like that in a holding stance…

It sounds a bit melodramatic here but I think it's because most men xould probably kill a woman by strangling her with his bare hands, in a way a woman couldn't the other way round. That's why it feels kind of sinister to me even in a joking around way

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It sounds a bit melodramatic here but I think it's because most men xould probably kill a woman by strangling her with his bare hands, in a way a woman couldn't the other way round. That's why it feels kind of sinister to me even in a joking around way

…yeah, I don’t know if I’m over thinking but it was also how he held her wrist as well…only for a second but still, it was all a bit uneasy…

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It sounds a bit melodramatic here but I think it's because most men xould probably kill a woman by strangling her with his bare hands, in a way a woman couldn't the other way round. That's why it feels kind of sinister to me even in a joking around way

That’s a fact, Niamh. I do believe that the majority of women killed in DV situations die as a result of strangulation, and most women in these situations suffer non-fatal strangulation during such relationships, even when it does not end in death.
From memory, that’s why the law was changed a couple of years ago to make non-fatal strangulation an offence in itself, separate to any charges for DV. I think, at the time, a non-fatal strangulation conviction came with a custodial sentence, and I can remember this happened in the first case after the law was changed. I hope this is still the case, but I’m not sure if it remains so due to the lack of prison places.

However, in the same way that these charges and sentences are so important, I think it’s equally important that people are aware of the differences between grabbing, squeezing and placing the hands, and of whether those hands are around, or beside the neck.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I hope he means I can't do that in general rather than just because he's in the house. They were fine a few minutes later.

Unrelated, but just catching up and, in a head to head vote, it's getting to the point where I might vote to evict Lily over Ali.

Yeah same

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He took his hand away the minute he put it on her neck and said "I can't do that" worrying that's the only reason he stopped though

This. Exactly. That’s why I’m saying it doesn’t matter if they were laughing before and after it. Everything he does in that house makes me feel ill from gaslighting Sarah the other night to this. And yet he’s NEVER called out for any of it. They even constantly defend him on Late & Live as just “having a laugh”.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

This. Exactly. That’s why I’m saying it doesn’t matter if they were laughing before and after it. Everything he does in that house makes me feel ill from gaslighting Sarah the other night to this. And yet he’s NEVER called out for any of it. They even constantly defend him on Late & Live as just “having a laugh”.

Preaching to the choir here, Marchello is very iffy with how he interacts with women

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Preaching to the choir here, Marchello is very iffy with how he interacts with women

…I think the iffy was very apparent in how he spoke to Sarah after chicken gate as well when he was obviously still angry …the way he ‘dismissed her’…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I think the iffy was very apparent in how he spoke to Sarah after chicken gate as well when he was obviously still angry …the way he ‘dismissed her’…

Yeah, again that kind of domineering/humiliating side

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He took his hand away the minute he put it on her neck and said "I can't do that" worrying that's the only reason he stopped though

I had to watch it several times he literally lay his hand on her neck ...I thought the way it was made out he was throttling her

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I had to watch it several times he literally lay his hand on her neck ...I thought the way it was made out he was throttling her

Yes I know, he took it away and I said I can't do that, like he remembered he was on TV

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I know, he took it away and I said I can't do that, like he remembered he was on TV

Nathan nutting BP with the egg was alot worse

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nathan nutting BP with the egg was alot worse

I disagree

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree

that must have hurt because he did it from a height