[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It depends on if you think Marcello is actually making Misogynistic comments.

I would personally argue that his humour is not very politically correct, but I wouldn't necessarily say that he is Misogynistic.

Unless most of the female Housemates liking him are wrong, and Ali is correct?

His humor is not very PC at all and social boundaries clearly don't exist for him like it does for many, but he does talk in what can easily be construed as an offensive manner and if someone who is in the line of sight of that feels that comment could target them (as a group qualifier), I can understand being offended by it... suggesting he's a predator though and going after certain groups is a bit of a stretch. I think even Marcello knows there's a line somewhere... I don't know that BB would warn him specifically, though. ITV seems a bit more relaxed than C5 in that they don't want to interfere in anything. Where they have compensated is in casting people like Trish & Ali, who no matter what you can say about them, will easily point these things out and make it difficult for it to go further than a comment here and there... I would've thought some of the others might've said things as well, but now I don't know ... so I can only assume it's not as bad as it's made to be in clips or that this particular cast is just that passive when it comes to people like Marcello.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He probably said " Do you want some food I cooked Dean"

And Dean probably said " yea mate " ,then he twisted it in his mind to be homophobic .

Dean goes out of his way to be offended, obviously I've used a silly example with cooking food ....but I wouldn't be surprised if it's something as mundane and silly as that. He even admitted to lying about Marcello manipulating with his cooking, so how credible is any of his words ?.

He probably wishes Marcello was worse than he is ,so then he can be like " see I told you " . I think he gets satisfaction at people's downfall .

I don't know that he goes out of his way. He's not a going out of his way to do anything kind of person unless provoked. I think he processes everything from his sleeve... he's relatively in tune with his feelings one minute to the next, sure, but I just don't think he understands what the heck is going on half the time as to the house and the environment in there. You'll notice he does very little digging or introspection about others and their motives. He's always self-assured one way or another. He often assumes intent and relies on his half-baked form of "intuition"... He said on L&L, for instance, he's highly spiritual. I believe that to be certainly possible, but when we've seen him talk about these things, it's been hinted or outright spoken about his ability to examine/address things. Almost in a mystical sense. It's all very passive and relying on hunches and not really an active way to participate in the house...

...and so when he talks about what he sees, I can't help but think that he's too deep in his own sense of things rather than engaging people 1-on-1 and challenging his own basis... my whole takeaway from his time there was that he was a fence sitter, until he wasn't for one reason or another, then he would strafe back to his "Home" position where he could live on predicting things from afar without actually contributing much at all to the dynamic. It's only when he saw opportunities to vent and let out these inklings that we suddenly saw... oh, this actually who he is ... (That's unfortunate...)...

In this way, he doesn't have to actually be held accountable for any of the things he might be wrong on, so he's so self-convinced on everything and everything he does... It's a way to cop out of the difficult parts of dealing with others. He definitely is not a people-person, which I do get, but it made him a very weak HM for me overall...

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think James is a security guard ,the housemates must have had dealings with or something lol.

Yeah exactly,why didn't Dean give an example of the homophobia . All he did was talk about the Amsterdam comment,which of course the L & L audience lapped up for his own arrogant
amusement .

Then he goes on to be a foul delusional hypocrite by talking about Emma & Sarah like they're beneath him. He probably thinks he's a protected class ,and can't be misogynistic or a bigot himself. But I'm seeing all those traits in him...and he projects it onto others.

He really is a bitter twisted individual.

I do agree to a good degree with some of that for sure, but I think it's less than conscious. He's so self-assured he doesn't see much farther than his nose... and it's very willful... for some that's more than enough to launch a verbal attack and then retreat before they get the response... I don't think that kind of person is very interested in responses, which is why most of this stuff he's said now didn't come out until L&L... so my view is this, if we only just heard about it now, then it probably really wasn't that bad of a comment...