[Maru]

I kind of wish he does something that causes him to go away quietly, but it's so very unlikely. I don't have to mind that he does his role well if he can manage something quietly and professionally… but I just don't care for all the other bullcrap that comes with him.

I've always thought he was a bit of a knob and a ticking time bomb which seemed evident with his clear narcissistic penchant, well before his entry into the world of politics. It does seem he craves a captive audience and I think he is finally getting a taste of that very important something that he's now clearly relishing and that is something he is clinging to, a bit like an overgrown child. In time that's not going to pan out as he'd hoped because these things always turn. I can't see that ending well.

Side tangent: I can see similar trends happening for some of the other egocentrist characters surrounding Trump. They're unelected so they can't expect the public to be as forgiving of any personal misfortunes. Similar to Harry & Meghan, the people didn't continue to fawn over them the same way after they moved on from the monarchy. They weren't part of true public life until that point (though amusingly, that's probably what they were led to believe in the background). Now they are and are subject to real world expectations. And that's part of it. Trump's actual pressure is going to be from the public (per his office) and I think he knows this. It's not the minor personalities surrounding him that got him to power, in reality. Real expectations will have to return and eventually the reality will set in that being a keyboard maverick on the internet is not an actual skillset. So I think at least some of the right-leaning folk who rode their wave to fame off Trumpism are in for a very rude awakening if they don't figure this out soon.. Americans are tired of politicians who do nothing... similarly, they're just beginning to fatigue on "celebritism" that continues to run its mouth but has nothing to show for it... this ire isn't just confined to Hollywood ilk...

Back to Elon, I don't use X that much but I'd seen just how much he posts and I can't comprehend how he's very busy at all doing whatever "business" he does in his real life. So that to me suggests there's not so much there as is often being portrayed. He talks so much **** also and eventually that's not going to add back up, either.

To say he seems too wrapped up on what goes on with the site is saying the very least and to that effect I think also what X says shouldn't be influencing our politics to such a grandiose extent either. Many other people are going to agree with that, I think. So I can't say it keeps up the image forever that it has this influence over our social discourse that it portrays, but perhaps he wants to build up the site with that veneer and eventually that is also going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths who either use the site casually for basic news or people who are just annoyed with his tweets being shoved in their faces through other sources. It was bad enough when it was just Trump tweets and all the energy that surrounded that. But for better or worse, he was our highest elected official and what he does say matters. Still, I think for the average person, they don't have to dislike either of them to not find their online versions very dislikeable.

As for any personal gain… I think TiBB, like many places on the internet, tend to put too much weight into the average influence of a **** poster on the internet. That said, Elon may do a decent enough something to make a dent in the way the country moves forward but I certainly think he manages this based on personal expectations (financially and emotionally) and there's certainly a major conflict of interest.

I generally agree his involvement is likely to be more problematic than Trump for that reason because it may create a trend where very rich people start believing they can buy their way into public office. (Zuckerberg...) I expect any contribution he makes to be a very mixed bag if it even happens. Based on his posting habits, I suspect he needs constant turdwrangling to get anything done in his actual life.


Those are just some of my thoughts… TLDR: I don't like or dislike him. But I think he's a walking trainwreck… and yes, he's absolutely got his own thing going on and taking advantage of every opportunity laid out in front of him... arguably, it's how people in his position do what they do... other billionaires have done the same (The Bill Gates and Steve Jobs of the world...), each have intimidated and pushed their way around to get their way... only time will tell, though.

[Alf]

Elon is currently championing free speech. So I can see why the establishment storm-troopers (aka voluntary slaves) are against him and are out there fighting the battles for the establishment against their own people. They'll abide by what their television is telling them. Useless mugs.

[Mystic Mock]

Him and Trump are both Grifters.

They both don't mean half of the **** that they spout.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

People worry about Trump, when in reality he's not the threat to democracy people like to make out him out to be, not really. Musk is in a different category altogether. He wants world domination. He's the guy we should be worrying about. Im no Trump fan (though he's better for America than any other politician atm imo), but Musk, well, there's something sinister and worrying behind those eyes. There's certainly an ulterior motive here, him up Trump's arse. I see a big public falling out between the two in the coming years.

I personally think that we've got more to worry about with Tate than either Musk or Trump.

Don't get me wrong they've both got big gobs on them, but Tate is indoctrinating young men with some terrifying views on women.

That could see an entire generation that's even more dystopian than now.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I agree with Brian Tyler Cohen's assessment as well tbh.

A Bishop isn't supposed to be prejudiced towards anybody, and that includes the scum like murderers, rapists, and Paedophiles.

In comparison, I honestly don't see the issue with her defending illegal immigrants, but that's just me.

[Alf]

Macron is a Nazi

The mainstream media won't be pushing this in your face like they did with Elon.

Do you see how it works yet?

What do you say Glenn? You were vocal about Elon being a Nazi for doing exactly this gesture. Is Macron a Nazi Glenn?

Also, totally different topic. But why don't the BBC want to get to the bottom of who murdered their former employee, Jill Dando, on a London street, in broad daylight?

You may be afraid to ask those questions. I'm not.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Him and Trump are both Grifters.

They both don't mean half of the **** that they spout.

Trump has just demanded a meeting with Putin. He's about to end their war and WW3 before it starts. Not bad for a grifter eh?

If he's a grifter, what does that make all those war mongers that came before him?

[Maru]

When is politics not a grift...? That is a more helpful question to answer... because most politics\political warfare these days are accusation-based. Accusations of isms, ists, criminalisms, communisms, etc... you know that's why they want you to vote for their side to get rid of the isms and ists...

I know it's not fun to imagine but a vast majority of us fit the labels tossed about randomly at some point in our lives. Especially with the ease it is all being applied to one another. It starts to cancel out each other the more it is tossed about which makes communications about basic morality and perceived social virtue just about pointless... "well I may be an ism (to just you of course), but your an ist and that is far far worse because..."... and around and around that goes.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Trump has just demanded a meeting with Putin. He's about to end their war and WW3 before it starts. Not bad for a grifter eh?

If he's a grifter, what does that make all those war mongers that came before him?

Criminals in most cases.

And we'll see if Ukraine is left alone if Trump has truly managed to end the war.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Previous Elon Musk thread.





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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

When is politics not a grift...? That is a more helpful question to answer... because most politics\political warfare these days are accusation-based. Accusations of isms, ists, criminalisms, communisms, etc... you know that's why they want you to vote for their side to get rid of the isms and ists...

I know it's not fun to imagine but a vast majority of us fit the labels tossed about randomly at some point in our lives. Especially with the ease it is all being applied to one another. It starts to cancel out each other the more it is tossed about which makes communications about basic morality and perceived social virtue just about pointless... "well I may be an ism (to just you of course), but your an ist and that is far far worse because..."... and around and around that goes.

Fair point.

In western society (as it's a much bigger issue on our side of the world,) we let our leaders treat us like garbage and pit us all against each other, because we may have certain issues with each other (prejudiced issues or justifiable issues, it's all the same in this case,) because we all should be putting our differences aside and dictating to our leaders that we demand better leadership in our countries, and that they won't be the leader after the next election if things don't start picking up.

Instead a lot of us (myself included tbf) ignore the fact that our leaders are making us poorer and poorer, which is leading to other issues such as an increase in crime, poor Mental Health, prejudice etc etc.

We need to start genuinely holding our leaders accountable instead of a "us vs them" mentality like it's a team sport.

And I don't mean to go violent (obviously) I mean genuinely say to Starmer, Trump, or whoever is the leaders at that given time to give people more money so that they can actually enjoy their lives.

And in the UK's case we desperately need to sort out law & order as our sentences for serious offenses are atrocious, you get a bigger sentence in this country for Fraud than you do for being a rapist, it's seriously ****ed up.

I'm ranted out now.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Macron is a Nazi

The mainstream media won't be pushing this in your face like they did with Elon.

Do you see how it works yet?

What do you say Glenn? You were vocal about Elon being a Nazi for doing exactly this gesture. Is Macron a Nazi Glenn?

Also, totally different topic. But why don't the BBC want to get to the bottom of who murdered their former employee, Jill Dando, on a London street, in broad daylight?

You may be afraid to ask those questions. I'm not.

That ISNT what Musk did and you know that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Elon Musk @elonmusk

Globalism is civilizational suicide



https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882728514295906628

[Glenn.]

[Nicky91]

he is a father of 12 children


i guess he doesn't watch much tv then

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

he is a father of 12 children


i guess he doesn't watch much tv then

I mean, if you want to get scientific about it, all you can prove from that is that he's had sex at least 12 times. I'm not saying he HAS only had sex 12 times - just that it's all you can prove from the 12 kids.

Most people take precautions so that they don't end up with 12 kids with multiple partners, but then, I suppose, most people don't have unlimited funds - I suspect a lot of people would choose to have more children if money (and thus, help with childcare) wasn't any sort of concern.

I suppose in short all I'm saying is Nicky, he doesn't need to be having sex 24/7 to have 12 kids, he just needs to have sex a regular amount and not use any form of birth control. Babies tend to happen that way.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

he is a father of 12 children


i guess he doesn't watch much tv then

LOL...

I get the joke and don't need to try to explain it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL...

I get the joke and don't need to try to explain it.

Imagine still baiting when you cry victim so hard every time it works