[Crimson Dynamo]

Is it just another white people are bad stuff Netflix loves?

I will pass

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Is it just another white people are bad stuff Netflix loves?

I will pass

Not at all! In an era where every other show is a tiresome and condescending treatise on masculinity and what it means to be a young boy in today's world, this was...yet another one. Yeah you're right to pass, I'm sorry to say. Started off fairly promisingly, then it dropped the ball in the last two episodes imo. Even tried to vaguely tie it into Trump support at one point, with the young boy awkwardly waving away video evidence with a cry of 'fake news' lmao. Felt like a reddit powermod wrote this show. Very on the nose and hamfisted imo.

[Ammi]

…it was a pretty powerful story which I guess was navigating not only adolescence as it is for those going through it in the current times…but also the loss of Jamie’s adolescence because of what he’d done…

…I liked the almost separation of each episode which were obviously intertwining but also each one focusing on a different aspect of how the events would impact a family and a whole community…

Spoiler:

….obviously the first episode being a lot about procedure etc following the crime…and then the second episode covering the detectives going to Katie and Jamie’s school…it was also a good edition to the storyline to have the detectives own child at that school…/…obviously he explained the emoji use on social media which was a huge key in the story…but also, the impact on him with his peers in being the child of a police officer…also feeling some of Jade’s turmoil of emotions…I think the third episode was the most riveting for me…that intensity between the psychology assessor and Jamie and brilliantly showing him as equally vulnerable and threatening…and then the last episode of how the family was living their lives in the aftermath of it all…the impact on them with any society reactions and also their own relationship with Jamie……

…it really did navigate through and touch on so much that being an adolescent of today involves…the ‘revenge porn’ stuff that Katie went through, cyber bullying and exposure to ‘incel’ ideologies…

Spoiler:

…as the officer said, how in the heck can a thirteen year old be tagged as an involuntary celibate when they’re not yet old enough to be sexually active…but it was the suggestion that and inferring that someone would be an incel in their whole future….

…there really is so much to navigate in being an adolescent in these current times with the power of the internet….

…all a very tragic and powerful storyline…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Not at all! In an era where every other show is a tiresome and condescending treatise on masculinity and what it means to be a young boy in today's world, this was...yet another one. Yeah you're right to pass, I'm sorry to say. Started off fairly promisingly, then it dropped the ball in the last two episodes imo. Even tried to vaguely tie it into Trump support at one point, with the young boy awkwardly waving away video evidence with a cry of 'fake news' lmao. Felt like a reddit powermod wrote this show. Very on the nose and hamfisted imo.

Agree with this, and although the acting was good (especially from the boy in ep3) a lot of the scenes were drawn out and boring. I get the message and what they were trying to achieve but I think a lot of people will have tuned out

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Not at all! In an era where every other show is a tiresome and condescending treatise on masculinity and what it means to be a young boy in today's world, this was...yet another one. Yeah you're right to pass, I'm sorry to say. Started off fairly promisingly, then it dropped the ball in the last two episodes imo. Even tried to vaguely tie it into Trump support at one point, with the young boy awkwardly waving away video evidence with a cry of 'fake news' lmao. Felt like a reddit powermod wrote this show. Very on the nose and hamfisted imo.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Agree with this, and although the acting was good (especially from the boy in ep3) a lot of the scenes were drawn out and boring. I get the message and what they were trying to achieve but I think a lot of people will have tuned out

See I disagree here and would argue that the last episode (that focusses entirely on the effect on the family, the guilt/shame/acceptance/reflection/trying to move on with normal life) is the strongest and most interesting episode.

I would also say as the parent of a "current social world" teenage girl who has just come out of the trenches of "the early teens" ... the portrayal of a teenage boy of age maybe 10 - 13 is not unrealistic at all (besides the actual stabbing), and flippantly branding something "Fake news" is 100% something a boy at that age would do. Early adolescence is a dumpster fire of an age group.

I will say this - at 15/16 there are thankfully plenty of my daughter's male peers who are coming through the "awkward little arsehole" phase finally and maturing out of it, she's actually close friends with some of them who she couldn't stand in early high school (which I told her would happen, and she completely disbelieved a couple of years ago).

But yeah.

A lot of 13 year old boys are fkn awful. This is from recent experience. I'll "be fair" and say plenty of the girls were pretty awful too, and plenty of them just as aggressive, and certainly worse in terms of social exclusion tactics.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

See I disagree here and would argue that the last episode (that focusses entirely on the effect on the family, the guilt/shame/acceptance/reflection/trying to move on with normal life) is the strongest and most interesting episode.

I would also say as the parent of a "current social world" teenage girl who has just come out of the trenches of "the early teens" ... the portrayal of a teenage boy of age maybe 10 - 13 is not unrealistic at all (besides the actual stabbing), and flippantly branding something "Fake news" is 100% something a boy at that age would do. Early adolescence is a dumpster fire of an age group.

I will say this - at 15/16 there are thankfully plenty of my daughter's male peers who are coming through the "awkward little arsehole" phase finally and maturing out of it, she's actually close friends with some of them who she couldn't stand in early high school (which I told her would happen, and she completely disbelieved a couple of years ago).

But yeah.

A lot of 13 year old boys are fkn awful. This is from recent experience. I'll "be fair" and say plenty of the girls were pretty awful too, and plenty of them just as aggressive, and certainly worse in terms of social exclusion tactics.

I was a bit torn, I think the scene in the van of them talking about what they would do tonight for his birthday dragged and was boring for example but I know it had to be in there as well for the episode to make sense and like it was a real day.

Honestly, I'm just so glad my kids are adults now, it would be very scary being a parent of school age kids at the moment. Thankfully, although social media was a thing when mine were in school, it wasn't gone as bad as it has now

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Is it just another white people are bad stuff Netflix loves?

I will pass

It's not for me. I know someone who watched it and he said it's unrealistic and overrated. I'm not a fan of Stephen Graham either. I've never liked anything he's been in. He too is overrated.

The subject matter not for me either. Good luck to anyone who likes it.