[Abra]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Emily was unfairly removed, yes. There was no malice or hate in her use of it. Plus, she invented Indie and we should all respect that.

We probably have very different ideas of what 'properly accountable' for using words looks like.

But I mean the ideological push of the Frankfurt School in general... What grew to be understood these days as 'woke'.

Sorry but the fact that you think a white girl is entitled to go around calling black people the N word without consequence just nullifies your entire argument for me. That's a pretty extreme view to hold that you are masking as some kind of appreciation for free speech. The word "woke" has become so overused by the right at this point that it's essentially meaningless.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

Sorry but the fact that you think a white girl is entitled to go around calling black people the N word without consequence just nullifies your entire argument for me. That's a pretty extreme view to hold that you are masking as some kind of appreciation for free speech. The word "woke" has become so overused by the right at this point that it's essentially meaningless.

lol it's not 'extreme'... stop being so dramatic

I just think that intention and context matters in these things, and Emily was clearly not being racist. Charley didn't even care about it until Shabna convinced her that she should. A warning would have been fine.

If this position is 'extreme' to you then I am not sure what to say

I agree that 'woke' is overused and often misused, but I understand what it means and use it correctly, if sparingly.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by vesavius

lol it's not 'extreme'... stop being so dramatic

I just think that intention and context matters in these things, and Emily was clearly not being racist. Charley didn't even care about it until Shabna convinced her that she should. A warning would have been fine.

If this position is 'extreme' to you then I am not sure what to say

I agree that 'woke' is overused and often misused, but I understand what it means and use it correctly, if sparingly.

I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but supporting a white person's right to call a black person the N word is most certainly an extreme racist view, there's no two ways around it. I would also say that's pretty universally acknowledged as a textbook example of racism. There's no context in which a white person calling a black person that word isn't racist, and no amount of mental gymnastics around "intention" will change that. She knew the word she was using and she knew that she was calling a black person that word, she said it with the intention she meant it.

"Emily was clearly not being racist" I have to laugh

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but supporting a white person's right to call a black person the N word is most certainly an extreme racist view, there's no two ways around it. I would also say that's pretty universally acknowledged as a textbook example of racism. There's no context in which a white person calling a black person that word isn't racist, and no amount of mental gymnastics around "intention" will change that. She knew the word she was using and she knew that she was calling a black person that word, she said it with the intention she meant it.

"Emily was clearly not being racist" I have to laugh

Luckily I care not even a little for your (bad) take on that or your judgement of me for it

You don't get to define or dictate how others think. Sorry.

If you want to see racism everywhere and tilt at windmills, knock yourself out. I don't mind.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Luckily I care not even a little for your (bad) take on that or your judgement of me for it

You don't get to define or dictate how others think. Sorry.

If you want to see racism everywhere and tilt at windmills, knock yourself out. I don't mind.

I don't see racism everywhere, but do I see it when a white person calls a black person the most offensive racial slur in existence? Yes, absolutely. You would have to be either incredibly dumb or incredibly ignorant not to.

I'm not attempting to dictate how you think, if you are happy being a racist that is entirely your decision, but that doesn't make you exempt from being challenged on your views and having your (extremely weak) logic questioned.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

if you are happy being a racist that is entirely your decision.

oh, go away with your silly name calling. I'm done with you.

Smoothbrained trolls that try to win by just screaching 'racist' at the other person. This is why I don't trust the Left to define what 'Hate Speech' is... There are just too many psychos that will try and abuse it.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by vesavius

oh, go away with your silly name calling. I'm done with you.

Person who defends white people calling black people the N word recoils in horror at being told they are a racist

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Abra

I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but supporting a white person's right to call a black person the N word is most certainly an extreme racist view, there's no two ways around it. I would also say that's pretty universally acknowledged as a textbook example of racism. There's no context in which a white person calling a black person that word isn't racist, and no amount of mental gymnastics around "intention" will change that. She knew the word she was using and she knew that she was calling a black person that word, she said it with the intention she meant it.

"Emily was clearly not being racist" I have to laugh

But weren't the public going to vote Emily out that week anyway?

Why didn't BB just let the public finish the job that they'd already started?