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Originally Posted by Livia

A thousand migrants have arrived here today. It is unsustainable. I don't know any Reform supporter who want to see migrants drown in the channel so to tar everyone with the same brush is a little short sighted. But where are we going to put them all? Who's going to pay for it? Right now they're being housed in front of our own people causing discontent. Resources are finite, this cannot continue. The choice seems to be either we welcome them in with open arms, or we're Nazis. I do not accept that, and if we'd done something to stem the tide years ago and make it clear we will only take those who arrive through recognised routes, ie the Red Cross or the UN, things might be different. You cannot seriously believe that all these young, fighting age men are fleeing war? Where are all the women and children? I would be less unhappy if these were desperate families, but they're not. I don't see anyone worrying that the French don't put these people up in hotels and give them all sorts of free stuff like we do. It's why they come. We're a soft touch who'll step over our own homeless to be seen to be supporting migrants.

I will stand up for the influences in my own life and believe they at least match those in your own. The concentration camp where my grandmother lost her whole family and almost lost her own life bears little resemblance to the four star, free med and dental with pocket money life the migrants landing here receive. So I find the comments about how Reform are Nazis, insulting, hysterical and short sighted in the extreme.

That whole post is about migrants.
It's like a cult mantra from Reform and its supporters to be anti migrants.
Once scapegoating starts,it's incredible how many jump on that wagon.

I KNOW what I've heard from Reform supporters directly to my face re migrants.
None of it nice at all.
I was sickeningly disgusted at their attitude.
However there it is.

I'm sorry but I've not a scrap of trust in Reform.
Their scapegoating of migrants for the ills of the UK is how the Nazis got to work on and
sucked in others, that is a fair comparison in my view.

I'll never see other human beings only as undesirable numbers, that is how Reform does and thrives on it too, unfortunately.

That is awful and horrific as to your family.
It is however another reminder of where sowing seeds of distrust of others and scapegoating them for things going wrong can lead.
One of my Uncles was actually physically sick at what he and the forces he was in, found at camps as the war came to a close.
Even in the 2000s, it brought tears from him just giving his account to me of what they found.
As he said to me, all because evil people used power to stop seeing some people actually as people and just numbers to be got rid of.

That doesn't sound that far from the rhetoric of Reform and some of its supporters.
Yet all that Reform go on about is migrants.
Pushing the mantra they are more the undesirable people now.
I don't look at them that way.
I find scapegoating despicable.

Anyhow, I'm wasting my time on here with this.
That's blatantly obvious.