[Maru]

Is this where I can come to complain the whole flag banning thing is really stupid?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

Is this where I can come to complain the whole flag banning thing is really stupid?

As in Reform banning things like Pride flags and Ukrainian flags outside council buildings? Not sure you'll get much support on that one in this thread.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

As in Reform banning things like Pride flags and Ukrainian flags outside council buildings? Not sure you'll get much support on that one in this thread.

You will get plenty of support for councils flying the flag of the country they represent and not some flag to virtue grandstand for some left wing mentalist

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

You will get plenty of support for councils flying the flag of the country they represent and not some flag to virtue grandstand for some left wing mentalist

Snowflake behaviour x

[Cherie]

Farage has dodged tax as well

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...t-pay-35858834

[Glenn.]

Still waiting for his resignation

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

As in Reform banning things like Pride flags and Ukrainian flags outside council buildings? Not sure you'll get much support on that one in this thread.

You have to laugh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This outside the conference today

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Still waiting for his resignation

Tbf he is not in power, he is not housing minister and he is not telling us that we should all be paying more tax on housing....do you see the difference? Still not a great optic but it is within the law what they have done, what Angela did is not

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This outside the conference today

Is that not inciting violence? this country

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf he is not in power, he is not housing minister and he is not telling us that we should all be paying more tax on housing....do you see the difference? Still not a great optic but it is within the law what they have done, what Angela did is not

“Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on Ł400,000 GB News earnings. Poor attendance record in parliament.

Has used a trust fund in an offshore tax haven.

Previously described people who try to avoid tax as the “common enemy”

[Crimson Dynamo]

��BREAKING: Reform UK announce they will DEPORT EVERY illegal migrant in Britain.

“A reform government will Track down, detain and deport every immigrant in the United Kingdom”

VIDEO HERE: https://x.com/TheBritLad/status/1964018090724741352

[Maru]

Originally Posted by BBXX

As in Reform banning things like Pride flags and Ukrainian flags outside council buildings? Not sure you'll get much support on that one in this thread.

That's building-specific, so I don't see the issue with that. I don't think the United States Postal Service needs to fly every flag a postal worker thought was popular on X.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This outside the conference today

This just makes me want to hang up more US flags.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

“Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on Ł400,000 GB News earnings. Poor attendance record in parliament.

Has used a trust fund in an offshore tax haven.

Previously described people who try to avoid tax as the “common enemy”

The don’t care. Nigel Farage can dodge tax while telling others they shouldn’t. He can pretend he cares about women’s safety while voting against measures to protect them. He wants to scrap working from home while only having a 20% attendance record for Parliament votes. The ma is one of the biggest liars and hypocrites but thy don’t care because he wants to eject brown people from the country so nothing else matters and nothing else will be criticised.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

That's building-specific, so I don't see the issue with that. I don't think the United States Postal Service needs to fly every flag a postal worker thought was popular on X.

Ah sorry - so you are okay with banning flags but want to complain about flags being banned.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Ah sorry - so you are okay with banning flags but want to complain about flags being banned.

If it's country wide, then yes. That's banning speech. A govt building doesn't have personal rights.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

If it's country wide, then yes. That's banning speech. A govt building doesn't have personal rights.

People hanging the Union Jack on a lamppost they don’t own or maintain being taken down is not banning flags though. People are free to fly them in on their own property.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by BBXX

People hanging the Union Jack on a lamppost they don’t own or maintain being taken down is not banning flags though. People are free to fly them in on their own property.

Yes, generally speaking, it's against the law to deface private property that isn't our own, whatever it is defaced it with. Would be no different if it were custom signage. It wouldn't lead to penalties if it were undamaged property and were easily removed. That's fine. Still, that line should be carefully toed when it's involving public sentiments regarding the govt (that's more local policy than law). I don't see the issue if they removed all flags for a time while tensions were high, though. It's cheaper than having to board up a building. Something we're apt to do when certain groups are planned to protest (But if you have to remove your own national flag, that's pretty dismal)

The impression we're being given in the US was that the govt were increasingly leaning towards banning all displays of the flag in many settings to limit tensions, not just from lamp posts and that I would wholeheartedly disagree with for the obvious. The algorithms and basic internet searches are doing a horrific job of explaining exactly how and where played out which is why I check here, but for most Americans banning our national flag in any capacity (culturally) is literally unthinkable. So it's creating more interest in what is happening in the UK than is normal and not in a good way.

[Maru]

I'm halfway through (out of 3hrs..) listening to the Congressional committee that Farage met in front of within the Capital and so far it's been comedy:

Youtube video

Someone actually used the phrase "memory hole". Several times, too.

I still remember when politicians were made mostly using cardboard.

[Maru]

lol... (Congressman to Farage) You were here at "The Trump convention" when he was "coronated", right?

Timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/live/YHqCGURbQ74&t=5811

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

The impression we're being given in the US was that the govt were increasingly leaning towards banning all displays of the flag in many settings to limit tensions, not just from lamp posts and that I would wholeheartedly disagree with for the obvious. The algorithms and basic internet searches are doing a horrific job of explaining exactly how and where played out which is why I check here, but for most Americans banning our national flag in any capacity (culturally) is literally unthinkable. So it's creating more interest in what is happening in the UK than is normal and not in a good way.

That's a false impression. Some local councils have asked residents not to put up flags on street lamps because of safety - if Bob falls while erecting it, or if he does a rubbish job and it falls on a car, blocking their vision and causing an accident, or a pedestrian at the side of a road. But really, nothing much is happening. I drove through a small town yesterday and the high street was laced with the Union flag on either side for the full stretch of the street. Moreover, a Google search shows people are more than welcome to fly flags on their own property:

Flags are a very British way of expressing joy and pride – they are emotive symbols which can boost local and national identities, strengthen community cohesion and mark civic pride.

The government wants to see more flags flown, particularly the Union Flag, the flag of the United Kingdom. It is a symbol of national unity and pride. The government has recently issued guidance encouraging the flying of the Union Flag on all UK government buildings throughout the year, alongside other national and local flags.

We are keen for local authorities and other local organisations to follow suit. We have made it easier for the Union Flag to be flown alongside other flags, so organisations can highlight their local identities, as well as their national identities, and celebrate special days or events which champion civic pride.

In England, the flying of flags is treated as advertisements for the purposes of the planning regime to ensure the flags do not impact on safety or amenity. Some flags require formal consent (permission) from the local planning authority, whereas others like the Union Flag do not - GOV.uk

But I think you also have to consider context. Currently there is Project 'Raise the Colour' (ironically the same people are definitely against rainbow flags being raised, the most colourful of all ). Project raise the Colours is not doing done because of country pride, regardless of what others pretend. It's being done to cause discomfort and 'remind' people we are Great Britain.

In a time when we have NHS workers attacked in parks, when people are emboldened to salute like a nazi, when far-right Reform, a party whose whole schtick is deporting migrants and nothing else are leading the polls, when we're given daily small-boat crossing numbers like they are Covid deaths, when 2/5ths of those arrested last summer for violent anti-migrant rioting have a history of domestic abuse and when 7 in all 10 hate crimes are racially motivated, anyone with an announce of emotional or logical intelligence can see the intention behind why flags are being raised and why when it is an instigator for division and, therefore, best not done.

Ironically weaponising your country's flag to incite hate, cause discomfort and utilise as a symbol to drive division is probably the most unpatriotic thing a person can do.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[BBXX]

The average age of a Reform member is 61. It's a party on borrowed time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

AI Overview
The median age for a Reform UK voter in the 2024 general election was 56, not 61,
according to a YouGov analysis. This indicates that while Reform UK does attract older
voters, a figure of 61 is not supported by this specific data.