[Crimson Dynamo]

This vile murder has exposed the left like no other. The irony is off the scale

[Maru]

Wow. Never heard of that one. They added a charge for committing a violent offense while children were present. I guess it's supposed to act sort of like an enhancement I think... must be something specific to Utah:

The charges include:

Aggravated murder, a capital offense

Felony discharge of firearm causing serious bodily injury

Two counts of obstruction of justice

Two counts of witness tampering

Commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child

Penal code — 76-5-114. Commission of domestic violence in the presence of a child
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Ch...76-5-S114.html

[Maru]

Press Conference — Utah seeks death penalty in Charlie Kirk’s killing:

Youtube video

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Absolutely horrid!!!

May not agree with everything he said but nobody deserves to be killed for their views.


I'm in the camp who doesn't believe that the kid did it.


Question- did Charlie have any kind of disability himself? He seems to twitch a lot when he talked and his head was abnormally shaped.

He could have just a twitch condition? Or Tourette’s

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This vile murder has exposed the left like no other. The irony is off the scale

Do you realise that almost every time someone replies to you with facts you ignore it and just say something negative about the opposition instead of actually having an honest conversation.

There is a really good test to know whether you’re brainwashed and it’s whenever you’re presented with a factual argument that puts those you support in negative light, if you’re argument is just to say something negative about the opposition instead of actually criticising those you support in a moment of honesty, if you truly cannot bring yourself to say one negative thing, then you’re brainwashed.

You like to accuse others like me of being brainwashed but on this forum I’ve criticised Islam, I’ve criticised extremist trans people, I’ve called out those who co-opt trans identities for awful crimes, I’ve said that even though I completely disagree with pretty much everything Charlie Kirk has said, celebrating his death is awful, and I’ve criticised extreme left behaviour.

I never see you acknowledge anything objectionability negative about those on the right. You either make excuses or ignore it or post a video that puts someone on the left is a negative light. Therefore debating with you is pointless because you’re simply dishonest and act in misdirection.

[emseateng2014]

its still crazy how most of the right wing media are still reporting like no tomorrow ever since the aftermath of charlies kirks assasination about people from the left and or the right getting kicked out fired suspended from school and or work just for celebrating charlie kirks death

althought i doubt peeps from the right wing are getting fired kicked out suspended for celebrating charlies death but who knows if there are any from the right we might never know because the right wing media mostly blame almost on the left like they are the super villains from tv shows movies and comic books

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Do you realise that almost every time someone replies to you with facts you ignore it and just say something negative about the opposition instead of actually having an honest conversation.

There is a really good test to know whether you’re brainwashed and it’s whenever you’re presented with a factual argument that puts those you support in negative light, if you’re argument is just to say something negative about the opposition instead of actually criticising those you support in a moment of honesty, if you truly cannot bring yourself to say one negative thing, then you’re brainwashed.

You like to accuse others like me of being brainwashed but on this forum I’ve criticised Islam, I’ve criticised extremist trans people, I’ve called out those who co-opt trans identities for awful crimes, I’ve said that even though I completely disagree with pretty much everything Charlie Kirk has said, celebrating his death is awful, and I’ve criticised extreme left behaviour.

I never see you acknowledge anything objectionability negative about those on the right. You either make excuses or ignore it or post a video that puts someone on the left is a negative light. Therefore debating with you is pointless because you’re simply dishonest and act in misdirection.

When you post facts I will acknowledge you. When you copy and paste worn dogma I cant. Life is way way to short to react to Google searches

[Maru]

Charging documents:
https://media.deseret.com/media/misc...nformation.pdf

(Not my summary):

• Charlie Kirk was speaking at an outdoor event at Utah Valley University at noon on Wednesday, Sept. 10.
• Kirk was struck by a bullet in the neck. He slumped to the ground almost immediately.
• Kirk was pronounced dead at the hospital.
• The bullet’s trajectory passed closely to several other individuals besides Kirk, including the questioner who was standing directly in front of Kirk.
• Children were visible near Kirk’s stage when he was shot.
• At the moment of the shot, a UVU police officer (the UVU Officer) was watching the crowd from an elevated vantage point.
• As soon as he heard the shot, the officer began to scan the area for threats. Believing the shot came from a rifle because of its sound, he looked for potential sniper positions. He noted a roof area approximately 160 yards away from Kirk as a potential shooting position and rushed there to look for evidence.
  
• Robinson’s mother saw a photo released by police and believed it looked like her son.
• Robinson’s mother called her son and asked him where he was. He said he was at home sick and that he had also been at home sick on September 10th.
• Robinson’s mother told police that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.
  
• Robinson’s father reported that when his wife showed him the surveillance image of the suspected shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked like their son.
• He also believed that the rifle that police suspected the shooter used matched a rifle that was given to his son as a gift.
• As a result, Robinson’s father contacted his son and asked him to send a photo of the rifle. Robinson did not respond. However, Robinson’s father spoke on the phone with Robinson. Robinson implied that he planned to take his own life. Robinson’s parents were able to convince him to meet at their home.
• As they discussed the situation, Robinson implied that he was the shooter and stated that he couldn’t go to jail and just wanted to end it. When asked why he did it, Robinson explained there is too much evil and the guy [Charlie Kirk] spreads too much hate.
  
• They talked about Robinson turning himself in and convinced Robinson to speak with a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff.
  
• At Robinson’s father’s request, the family friend met with Robinson and his parents and convinced Robinson to turn himself in.
• On the evening of Sept. 11, 2025, as law enforcement continued their investigation, Tyler James Robinson, went to the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with his parents and a family friend to turn himself in.
• Police interviewed Robinson’s roommate/partner.

Text messages to his "love" (his words) (Starts at end of Pg 7):

Police released the following text exchanges allegedly between Robinson and his partner:

Robinson: I am still ok my love, but am stuck in orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn’t be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you.

Roommate: you weren’t the one who did it right????

Robinson: I am, I’m sorry

Roommate: I thought they caught the person?

Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering.

Roommate: Why?

Robinson: Why did I do it?

Roommate: Yeah

Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.

Roommate: How long have you been planning this?

Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna chance it …

Robinson: I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. … I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with. … I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the (expletive) will I explain losing it to my old man. … only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. … remember how I was engraving bullets? The (expletive) messages are mostly a big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke alright im gonna have to leave it, that really (expletive) sucks. … judging from today I’d say grandpas gun does just fine idk. I think that was a $2k scope ;-; …

Robinson: delete this exchange

Robinson: my dad wants photos of the rifle … he says grandpa wants to know who has what, the feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique. Hes calling me rn, not answering. …

Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga. …

Robinson: Im gonna turn myself in willingly, one of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.

Robinson: you are all I worry about love
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Roommate: I’m much more worried about you

Robinson: don’t talk to the media please. don’t take any interviews or make any comments. … if any police ask you questions ask for a lawyer and stay silent

Doesn't sound like they would've found him without the family's help. At least not immediately. The rifle belonging to his grandfather is quite sad...

[bots]

It boils down to simple intolerance of others views taken to the extreme. I can't see it being a long trial

We have all seen the anger from transactivists in the recent past, it was only a matter of time until someone crazy enough took it into their own hands

[Maru]

So this is interesting. It's not critical information to the murder, obviously... but Pope Leo has made some comments recently about martyrdom. Some churches have noticed this as well and are piggybacking off that as understandably there's casual connections to conversations people have been having, plus the scripture that was used.

Others had been speculating that Charlie had converted to Catholicism, because he had been seen at Mass not that long ago. That's not that unusual imo, as his wife is Catholic.

Sep 14th: ‘No one can silence their voice’: Pope Leo XIV honors modern martyrs at ecumenical service
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...enical-service

Sep 16th: Pope tells new US ambassador he is praying for Charlie Kirk and his family
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/e...1ebeb7a82.html


Related, people have been preemptively melting down at the prospect of Ben Shapiro being involved anywhere near the top of TPUSA (given he's a Jew), even though no one has suggested that would happen. They're both known for touring and doing campus debates. Interpret that of what you will...

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

When you post facts I will acknowledge you. When you copy and paste worn dogma I cant. Life is way way to short to react to Google searches

LOL. Okay. Almost 40 members have posted in this thread and your posts make up almost 20% of the entire thread so you won't convince me with the "life is too short" shtick I am afraid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

LOL. Okay. Almost 40 members have posted in this thread and your posts make up almost 20% of the entire thread so you won't convince me with the "life is too short" shtick I am afraid.

Posting relevant information and comment is one thing, reacting to well worn attempts is another

like i am doing here

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

death penalty yes please

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Maru

Charging documents:
https://media.deseret.com/media/misc...nformation.pdf

(Not my summary):

• Charlie Kirk was speaking at an outdoor event at Utah Valley University at noon on Wednesday, Sept. 10.
• Kirk was struck by a bullet in the neck. He slumped to the ground almost immediately.
• Kirk was pronounced dead at the hospital.
• The bullet’s trajectory passed closely to several other individuals besides Kirk, including the questioner who was standing directly in front of Kirk.
• Children were visible near Kirk’s stage when he was shot.
• At the moment of the shot, a UVU police officer (the UVU Officer) was watching the crowd from an elevated vantage point.
• As soon as he heard the shot, the officer began to scan the area for threats. Believing the shot came from a rifle because of its sound, he looked for potential sniper positions. He noted a roof area approximately 160 yards away from Kirk as a potential shooting position and rushed there to look for evidence.
  
• Robinson’s mother saw a photo released by police and believed it looked like her son.
• Robinson’s mother called her son and asked him where he was. He said he was at home sick and that he had also been at home sick on September 10th.
• Robinson’s mother told police that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.
  
• Robinson’s father reported that when his wife showed him the surveillance image of the suspected shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked like their son.
• He also believed that the rifle that police suspected the shooter used matched a rifle that was given to his son as a gift.
• As a result, Robinson’s father contacted his son and asked him to send a photo of the rifle. Robinson did not respond. However, Robinson’s father spoke on the phone with Robinson. Robinson implied that he planned to take his own life. Robinson’s parents were able to convince him to meet at their home.
• As they discussed the situation, Robinson implied that he was the shooter and stated that he couldn’t go to jail and just wanted to end it. When asked why he did it, Robinson explained there is too much evil and the guy [Charlie Kirk] spreads too much hate.
  
• They talked about Robinson turning himself in and convinced Robinson to speak with a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff.
  
• At Robinson’s father’s request, the family friend met with Robinson and his parents and convinced Robinson to turn himself in.
• On the evening of Sept. 11, 2025, as law enforcement continued their investigation, Tyler James Robinson, went to the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with his parents and a family friend to turn himself in.
• Police interviewed Robinson’s roommate/partner.

Text messages to his "love" (his words) (Starts at end of Pg 7):



Doesn't sound like they would've found him without the family's help. At least not immediately. The rifle belonging to his grandfather is quite sad...

This is such a sad read, three families devastated for what?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Posting relevant information and comment is one thing, reacting to well worn attempts is another

like i am doing here

lol okay. I posted stats and factual information based of evidence, and you posted... erm... LibsofTikTok.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

This is such a sad read, three families devastated for what?

Well exactly, it's truly just senseless and horrific and has torn multiple families apart forever... for nothing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Look at this POS at a memorial event

How has he been dragged up to be this type of vile human being?

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1967972450647630055

🚨 BREAKING: Texas State University has EXPELLED the student who was seen
mocking Charlie Kirk’s killing and spitting at his supporters

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

🚨 BREAKING: Texas State University has EXPELLED the student who was seen
mocking Charlie Kirk’s killing and spitting at his supporters

This isn't panning out how a lot of them thought it would.

[Crimson Dynamo]

ABC News reporter swoons over romance between Charlie Kirk assassin and
trans roommate: 'very touching'



An ABC reporter who was in attendance at a press briefing in Utah where charges against the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination were detailed claimed that the text messages between the alleged killer and his transgender romantic partner were "very touching." In those messages, Tyler Robinson urged his lover Lance Twiggs to destroy evidence to help cover up his connection to the killing.

Matt Gutman told viewers "we have seen an alleged murderer with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.

video - https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1968042242058387745

But also it was very touching, in a way that I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling him 'my love', and 'I want to protect you my love.'

"So it was this duality of someone who, the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner. So a very interesting... riveting press conference."

Since a suspect was named, there has been an effort among mainstream media outlets to paint him as a person on the far-right wing and now that this narrative has been proven false by investigators, ABC takes the view that the alleged killer was a loving partner to his trans boyfriend.

During that press conference, the Utah county attorney on the case revealed that accused killer Tyler Robinson came from a conservative family but had taken up leftist positions on trans and other position and wrongfully believed Charlie Kirk was a hateful person.

https://thepostmillennial.com/abc-ne...campaign=64470

[Beso]

The killer had a good life, he then went to university and became radicalized by the far left.

Shame. Biden amd harris have blood on their hands, by insinuating that all groups like lgbq and trans ideology as well as the climate lot and all the others are all under one banner and must confront the far right ideology that was growing in the USA.


You then have all those groups scared of speaking out against anything that may go against one of the other groups because their group would then be shunned and turned on by the remaining groups Biden and Harris said "Are all one"



Starmers tried the same in the UK, by calling protestor far right thugs. We now are beginning to see the same thing happen in the UK, because of the words of the leaders who should be calming situations, not inflaming them with dangerous words.

[Ammi]

…this is a very powerful speech and very powerful and apt words from Arnie…

Youtube video

After Schwarzenegger shared his comments online, the actor wrote on his social media page: “There’s something more important than my message in this video. It’s what you don’t hear. No heckling. No disrespect. No shouting.”

He continued: “I know that social media shows us the worst of humanity, and a few people celebrating a death will get more attention than hundreds of respectful people. Don’t let these companies and the rage influencers that profit from them convince you the worst of us are the most of us. They are a tiny minority that gets too much attention because anger makes you post, repost, and like.”

He praised the audience of almost 500 USC students for showing him no disrespect while he answered, stating: “That’s how most of the real world outside of the internet is. If you find yourself falling for the anger, go out in the real world and make yourself human again.”

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this is a very powerful speech and very powerful and apt words from Arnie…

Youtube video

After Schwarzenegger shared his comments online, the actor wrote on his social media page: “There’s something more important than my message in this video. It’s what you don’t hear. No heckling. No disrespect. No shouting.”

He continued: “I know that social media shows us the worst of humanity, and a few people celebrating a death will get more attention than hundreds of respectful people. Don’t let these companies and the rage influencers that profit from them convince you the worst of us are the most of us. They are a tiny minority that gets too much attention because anger makes you post, repost, and like.”

He praised the audience of almost 500 USC students for showing him no disrespect while he answered, stating: “That’s how most of the real world outside of the internet is. If you find yourself falling for the anger, go out in the real world and make yourself human again.”

Well said Arnie

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨 JUST IN: Congressman Randy Fine (R-FL) demands public firing squad "for
the entire world to see" of Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson.

[Zizu]

The public firing squad seems too much but I am definitely in favour of bringing back the death penalty … maybe in about 15 years after we have hopefully survived the upcoming civil unrest/ war ..


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