[Benjamin]

Sadly the awful song by Alex Warren robbed the crown from Lola Young.

But 28, 31 and 37 please me.

1. Alex Warren - Ordinary
2. Lola Young - Messy
3. Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club
4. Huntr/X - Golden
5. Rose & Bruno Mars - APT
6. Gracie Abrams - That’s So True
7. Benson Boone - Beautiful Things
8. Ravyn Lenae - Love Me Not
9. Olivia Deane - Man I Need
10. Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile

11. Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather
12. Chrystal - The Days
13. Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe
14. Teddy Swims - Lose Control
15. Sombr - Back To Friends
16. Sombr - Undressed
17. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
18. Gigi Perez - Sailor Song
19. Sabrina Carpenter - Taste
20. Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams

21. Teddy Swims - The Door
22. Tate McCrae - Sports Car
23. Myles Smith - Nice To Meet You
24. Sabrina Carpenter - Manchild
25. Myles Smith - Stargazing
26. Olivia Dean - Nice To Each Other
27. Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
28. Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
29. Taylor Swift - The Fate Of Ophelia
30. Alex Warren - Carry You Home

31. Killers - Mr. Brightside
32. WizTheMC/Bees & Honey - Show Me Love
33. Noah Kahan - Stick Season
34. Hozier - Too Sweet
35. Disco Lines & Tinashe - No Broke Boys
36. Saja Boys - Soda Pop
37. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
38. Sam Fender - Rein Me In
39. Ed Sheeran - Azizam
40. MK ft Chrystal - Dior

[Crimson Dynamo]

So, so poor year

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynasnow

So, so poor year

It really was.

[Mystic Mock]

People liked that really boring Alex Warren song?

Good modern/currently still going singers that people seriously need to listen to.

- Ella Langley
- Semblant
- Nightwish - Their latest Album was really strong imo.
- David Kushner
- Luke Combs
- Evanescence obviously
- Kacey Musgraves

I'm probably missing some off, but they're all better than most of that list imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Also is it fair to say that the reason why the entertainment industries in general are having quality problems because it's a sign of how society at large is currently full of unlikable, egotistical, narcissistic arseholes? Obviously not everyone is like what I'm describing, but sadly I do think that what I personally deem as likable traits does not exist in most people today.

And I'm being 100% serious, it's hard to in particular like Music from openly narcissistic people, and if they're not narcissistic then they're neurotic or Billie Eilish.

And other parts of society probably would need different threads to discuss them, because I'm sick to death of holding back on just how much I do hate (and I do mean hate) a lot of people's current behaviour in society, because unfortunately they are bringing it into areas where I can't escape it.

[Shaun]

Awful
Love
Fine
OK I guess but I'm sick of it
Never heard

1. Alex Warren - Ordinary
2. Lola Young - Messy
3. Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club
4. Huntr/X - Golden
5. Rose & Bruno Mars - APT
6. Gracie Abrams - That’s So True
7. Benson Boone - Beautiful Things
8. Ravyn Lenae - Love Me Not
9. Olivia Deane - Man I Need
10. Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile

11. Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather
12. Chrystal - The Days
13. Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe
14. Teddy Swims - Lose Control
15. Sombr - Back To Friends
16. Sombr - Undressed
17. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
18. Gigi Perez - Sailor Song
19. Sabrina Carpenter - Taste
20. Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams

21. Teddy Swims - The Door
22. Tate McCrae - Sports Car
23. Myles Smith - Nice To Meet You
24. Sabrina Carpenter - Manchild
25. Myles Smith - Stargazing
26. Olivia Dean - Nice To Each Other
27. Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
28. Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
29. Taylor Swift - The Fate Of Ophelia
30. Alex Warren - Carry You Home

31. Killers - Mr. Brightside (special case since I loved it once upon a time but its endurability in the charts is utterly baffling and it's been ruined by straight men with no culture)
32. WizTheMC/Bees & Honey - Show Me Love
33. Noah Kahan - Stick Season
34. Hozier - Too Sweet
35. Disco Lines & Tinashe - No Broke Boys
36. Saja Boys - Soda Pop
37. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
38. Sam Fender - Rein Me In
39. Ed Sheeran - Azizam
40. MK ft Chrystal - Dior


Fewer songs that I hate than usual, but god such a lot of boring "fine" stuff

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Shaun

[b]
12. Chrystal - The Days

I quite liked this one.

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Compare the above vanilla trash to the 20 best-selling of say 1983

I feel so sorry for teenagers today


POS TITLE ARTIST PEAK

1 KARMA CHAMELEON CULTURE CLUB 1
2 UPTOWN GIRL BILLY JOEL 1
3 RED RED WINE UB40 1
4 LET'S DANCE DAVID BOWIE 1
5 TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART BONNIE TYLER 1
6 TRUE SPANDAU BALLET 1
7 DOWN UNDER MEN AT WORK 1
8 BILLIE JEAN MICHAEL JACKSON 1
9 ONLY YOU FLYING PICKETS 1
10 ALL NIGHT LONG (ALL NIGHT) LIONEL RICHIE 2
11 SWEET DREAM (ARE MADE OF THIS) EURYTHMICS 2
12 YOU CAN'T HURRY LOVE PHIL COLLINS 1
13 TOO SHY KAJAGOOGOO 1
14 WHEREVER I LAY MY HAT (THAT'S MY HOME) PAUL YOUNG 1
15 LOVE OF THE COMMON PEOPLE PAUL YOUNG 2
16 EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE POLICE 1
17 IS THERE SOMETHING I SHOULD KNOW DURAN DURAN 1
18 BLUE MONDAY NEW ORDER 9
19 GIVE IT UP KC & THE SUNSHINE BAND 1
20 I.O.U FREEZ 2

[Swan]

I love Birds of a Feather, but fcked if i know 80% of the songs on that list. Im sure im nto missing out.

[Parmy]

29. Taylor Swift - The Fate Of Ophelia

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Parmy

29. Taylor Swift - The Fate Of Ophelia

I don’t get it? Her placing?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Father Chris Mouse

I love Birds of a Feather, but fcked if i know 80% of the songs on that list. Im sure im nto missing out.

Same, I don't listen to new music any more, it just doesn't interest me

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Awful
Love
Fine
OK I guess but I'm sick of it
Never heard

1. Alex Warren - Ordinary
2. Lola Young - Messy
3. Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club
4. Huntr/X - Golden
5. Rose & Bruno Mars - APT
6. Gracie Abrams - That’s So True
7. Benson Boone - Beautiful Things
8. Ravyn Lenae - Love Me Not
9. Olivia Deane - Man I Need
10. Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile

11. Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather
12. Chrystal - The Days
13. Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe
14. Teddy Swims - Lose Control
15. Sombr - Back To Friends
16. Sombr - Undressed
17. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
18. Gigi Perez - Sailor Song
19. Sabrina Carpenter - Taste
20. Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams

21. Teddy Swims - The Door
22. Tate McCrae - Sports Car
23. Myles Smith - Nice To Meet You
24. Sabrina Carpenter - Manchild
25. Myles Smith - Stargazing
26. Olivia Dean - Nice To Each Other
27. Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
28. Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
29. Taylor Swift - The Fate Of Ophelia
30. Alex Warren - Carry You Home

[color=purple]31. Killers - Mr. Brightside[/color] (special case since I loved it once upon a time but its endurability in the charts is utterly baffling and it's been ruined by straight men with no culture)
32. WizTheMC/Bees & Honey - Show Me Love
33. Noah Kahan - Stick Season
34. Hozier - Too Sweet
35. Disco Lines & Tinashe - No Broke Boys
36. Saja Boys - Soda Pop
37. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
38. Sam Fender - Rein Me In
39. Ed Sheeran - Azizam
40. MK ft Chrystal - Dior


Fewer songs that I hate than usual, but god such a lot of boring "fine" stuff

Up the darts

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by The Human Santapede

I don’t get it? Her placing?

It’s a dig.

The song was released 2 months ago. Out of that list, Fate of Ophelia is the second last to be released for the year and is still one of the biggest songs of the year is nothing to be laughed at.

[Glenn.]

Ordered by sales

Spoiler:

Ordered by estimated global sales and equivalents, highest to lowest. Physical, digital, and long term streaming converted. Older songs dominate. That is how sales work.
1. Fleetwood Mac. Dreams. 20m plus
2. Goo Goo Dolls. Iris. 15m plus
3. The Killers. Mr. Brightside. 14m plus
4. Ed Sheeran. Azizam. 10m plus
5. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. Die With A Smile. 9m plus
6. Hozier. Too Sweet. 8m plus
7. Noah Kahan. Stick Season. 7m plus
8. Billie Eilish. Birds Of A Feather. 7m plus
9. Sabrina Carpenter. Espresso. 6.5m plus
10. Teddy Swims. Lose Control. 6m plus
11. Shaboozey. A Bar Song Tipsy. 5.5m plus
12. Benson Boone. Beautiful Things. 5m plus
13. Chappell Roan. Pink Pony Club. 4.8m
14. Taylor Swift. The Fate Of Ophelia. 4.5m
15. ROSÉ and Bruno Mars. APT. 4.2m
16. Sabrina Carpenter. Taste. 3.8m
17. Teddy Swims. The Door. 3.6m
18. Gracie Abrams. That’s So True. 3.5m
19. Myles Smith. Stargazing. 3.2m
20. Olivia Dean. Man I Need. 3.1m
21. Lola Young. Messy. 3.0m
22. Sam Fender. Rein Me In. 2.9m
23. Teddy Swims. Bad Dreams. 2.8m
24. Chappell Roan. Good Luck Babe. 2.7m
25. MK featuring Chrystal. Dior. 2.6m
26. Ravyn Lenae. Love Me Not. 2.4m
27. WizTheMC and Bees and Honey. Show Me Love. 2.3m
28. Tate McCrae. Sports Car. 2.2m
29. Alex Warren. Ordinary. 2.1m
30. Olivia Dean. Nice To Each Other. 2.0m
31. Sombr. Back To Friends. 1.9m
32. Sombr. Undressed. 1.8m
33. Myles Smith. Nice To Meet You. 1.7m
34. Disco Lines and Tinashe. No Broke Boys. 1.6m
35. Chrystal. The Days. 1.5m
36. Sabrina Carpenter. Manchild. 1.4m
37. Gigi Perez. Sailor Song. 1.3m
38. Huntr slash X. Golden. 1.2m
39. Saja Boys. Soda Pop. 1.1m
40. Alex Warren. Carry You Home. 1.0m

Ordered by streams

Spoiler:

Here is the order by total global streams, highest to lowest.
This uses combined Spotify dominant share plus Apple Music estimates. Older songs win because time always wins.
1. The Killers. Mr. Brightside. ~2.6 billion
2. Fleetwood Mac. Dreams. ~2.5 billion
3. Goo Goo Dolls. Iris. ~2.0 billion
4. Hozier. Too Sweet. ~1.9 billion
5. Noah Kahan. Stick Season. ~1.8 billion
6. Billie Eilish. Birds Of A Feather. ~1.6 billion
7. Teddy Swims. Lose Control. ~1.5 billion
8. Sabrina Carpenter. Espresso. ~1.4 billion
9. Shaboozey. A Bar Song Tipsy. ~1.3 billion
10. Benson Boone. Beautiful Things. ~1.25 billion
11. Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. Die With A Smile. ~1.2 billion
12. Chappell Roan. Pink Pony Club. ~1.1 billion
13. Taylor Swift. The Fate Of Ophelia. ~1.05 billion
14. ROSÉ and Bruno Mars. APT. ~1.0 billion
15. Teddy Swims. The Door. ~950 million
16. Sabrina Carpenter. Taste. ~900 million
17. Gracie Abrams. That’s So True. ~880 million
18. Myles Smith. Stargazing. ~860 million
19. Olivia Dean. Man I Need. ~840 million
20. Lola Young. Messy. ~820 million
21. Chappell Roan. Good Luck Babe. ~800 million
22. Sam Fender. Rein Me In. ~780 million
23. Teddy Swims. Bad Dreams. ~760 million
24. Alex Warren. Ordinary. ~740 million
25. Ravyn Lenae. Love Me Not. ~720 million
26. Olivia Dean. Nice To Each Other. ~700 million
27. WizTheMC and Bees and Honey. Show Me Love. ~680 million
28. Tate McCrae. Sports Car. ~660 million
29. MK featuring Chrystal. Dior. ~640 million
30. Chrystal. The Days. ~620 million
31. Sombr. Back To Friends. ~600 million
32. Sombr. Undressed. ~580 million
33. Myles Smith. Nice To Meet You. ~560 million
34. Disco Lines and Tinashe. No Broke Boys. ~540 million
35. Sabrina Carpenter. Manchild. ~520 million
36. Gigi Perez. Sailor Song. ~500 million
37. Huntr slash X. Golden. ~480 million
38. Saja Boys. Soda Pop. ~460 million
39. Alex Warren. Carry You Home. ~440 million

Key reality check.
Streaming crowns longevity and playlists.
Taylor landing top 15 with a late year release is strong.
Mr. Brightside is basically immortal.
Algorithms never forget a wedding song.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

It’s a dig.

The song was released 2 months ago. Out of that list, Fate of Ophelia is the second last to be released for the year and is still one of the biggest songs of the year is nothing to be laughed at.

Yeah, was going to say it’s had one of the shortest times to make the top end of year sales.

[Parmy]

Its a **** song.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Awful
Love
Fine
OK I guess but I'm sick of it
Never heard

1. Alex Warren - Ordinary
2. Lola Young - Messy
3. Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club
4. Huntr/X - Golden
5. Rose & Bruno Mars - APT
6. Gracie Abrams - That’s So True
7. Benson Boone - Beautiful Things
8. Ravyn Lenae - Love Me Not
9. Olivia Deane - Man I Need
10. Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile

11. Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather
12. Chrystal - The Days
13. Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe
14. Teddy Swims - Lose Control
15. Sombr - Back To Friends
16. Sombr - Undressed
17. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
18. Gigi Perez - Sailor Song
19. Sabrina Carpenter - Taste
20. Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams

21. Teddy Swims - The Door
22. Tate McCrae - Sports Car
23. Myles Smith - Nice To Meet You
24. Sabrina Carpenter - Manchild
25. Myles Smith - Stargazing
26. Olivia Dean - Nice To Each Other
27. Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
28. Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
29. Taylor Swift - The Fate Of Ophelia
30. Alex Warren - Carry You Home

31. Killers - Mr. Brightside (special case since I loved it once upon a time but its endurability in the charts is utterly baffling and it's been ruined by straight men with no culture)
32. WizTheMC/Bees & Honey - Show Me Love
33. Noah Kahan - Stick Season
34. Hozier - Too Sweet
35. Disco Lines & Tinashe - No Broke Boys
36. Saja Boys - Soda Pop
37. Fleetwood Mac - Dreams
38. Sam Fender - Rein Me In
39. Ed Sheeran - Azizam
40. MK ft Chrystal - Dior


Fewer songs that I hate than usual, but god such a lot of boring "fine" stuff

Be grateful that you've never heard Chrystal's song because I unfortunately have.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynasnow

Compare the above vanilla trash to the 20 best-selling of say 1983

I feel so sorry for teenagers today


POS TITLE ARTIST PEAK

1 KARMA CHAMELEON CULTURE CLUB 1
2 UPTOWN GIRL BILLY JOEL 1
3 RED RED WINE UB40 1
4 LET'S DANCE DAVID BOWIE 1
5 TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART BONNIE TYLER 1
6 TRUE SPANDAU BALLET 1
7 DOWN UNDER MEN AT WORK 1
8 BILLIE JEAN MICHAEL JACKSON 1
9 ONLY YOU FLYING PICKETS 1
10 ALL NIGHT LONG (ALL NIGHT) LIONEL RICHIE 2
11 SWEET DREAM (ARE MADE OF THIS) EURYTHMICS 2
12 YOU CAN'T HURRY LOVE PHIL COLLINS 1
13 TOO SHY KAJAGOOGOO 1
14 WHEREVER I LAY MY HAT (THAT'S MY HOME) PAUL YOUNG 1
15 LOVE OF THE COMMON PEOPLE PAUL YOUNG 2
16 EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE POLICE 1
17 IS THERE SOMETHING I SHOULD KNOW DURAN DURAN 1
18 BLUE MONDAY NEW ORDER 9
19 GIVE IT UP KC & THE SUNSHINE BAND 1
20 I.O.U FREEZ 2

BIB are the ones that I like from this list.

Tbf to 17-20, I have never listened to those songs.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Father Chris Mouse

I love Birds of a Feather, but fcked if i know 80% of the songs on that list. Im sure im nto missing out.

Apart from Lovely, I really don't understand the appeal of Billie Eilish.

I've honestly tried, but she's just terrible imo.

Edit.... I just want to add that the Rose and Bruno Mars song is catchy I think.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Merry Mockmas

Apart from Lovely, I really don't understand the appeal of Billie Eilish.

I've honestly tried, but she's just terrible imo.

Edit.... I just want to add that the Rose and Bruno Mars song is catchy I think.

She's lovely tbh, look up her hatred or men she thinks are ugly. I just like that song of hers.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Father Chris Mouse

She's lovely tbh, look up her hatred or men she thinks are ugly. I just like that song of hers.

Lovely is admittedly a really good song.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Merry Mockmas

Apart from Lovely, I really don't understand the appeal of Billie Eilish.

I've honestly tried, but she's just terrible imo.

Edit.... I just want to add that the Rose and Bruno Mars song is catchy I think.

That’s one of the worst songs on the list.

I like Billie, not all her songs but she’s had some great ones - Ocean Eyes (you’d like that if you like Lovely, I think it’s her best song), Bury A Friend, Chihiro, Birds of A Feather and of course Lovely.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Human Santapede

That’s one of the worst songs on the list.

I like Billie, not all her songs but she’s had some great ones - Ocean Eyes (you’d like that if you like Lovely, I think it’s her best song), Bury A Friend, Chihiro, Birds of A Feather and of course Lovely.

The Rose and Bruno Mars song isn't brilliant, but I appreciate that there's at least a bit of a beat to the song.

And tbf, I can't remember if I've heard Ocean Eyes.

[Barry.]

I like Benson Boones song but mystical magical was better