[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Sticks

What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

I have to totally disagree with that. We should not just stand by and let them get on with it. Why, maybe they could go further and persecute people for the colour of their skin or possibly their religious persuasion? Would you find this acceptable in the UK if such a law was passed? Would you not expect others to intervene to stop such abhorrent victimisation? Many people have strived to educate people on such matters and have lost their freedom, or lives along the way fighting such injustices. In your eyes should we stop and just let governments do as they please? That seems pretty backward to me.

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I have to totally disagree with that. We should not just stand by and let them get on with it. Why, maybe they could go further and persecute people for the colour of their skin or possibly their religious persuasion? Would you find this acceptable in the UK if such a law was passed? Would you not expect others to intervene to stop such abhorrent victimisation? Many people have strived to educate people on such matters and have lost their freedom, or lives along the way fighting such injustices. In your eyes should we stop and just let governments do as they please? That seems pretty backward to me.

They should not have the right to execute Homosexuals, but i don't see a way in which the UK or EU can stop this.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I have to totally disagree with that. We should not just stand by and let them get on with it. Why, maybe they could go further and persecute people for the colour of their skin or possibly their religious persuasion? Would you find this acceptable in the UK if such a law was passed? Would you not expect others to intervene to stop such abhorrent victimisation? Many people have strived to educate people on such matters and have lost their freedom, or lives along the way fighting such injustices. In your eyes should we stop and just let governments do as they please? That seems pretty backward to me.

What do you suggest we do? Send our troops to yet another hole of a country and tell another bunch of animals how to bury their ****? It hasn't worked out well in the past. We should keep our noses out and let them deal with things how they want. Troops went to Vietnam; troops went to Afghanistan... and it never ends well. We are a small but great nation, and we should be happy with that. Let others do as they will. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

What do you suggest we do? Send our troops to yet another hole of a country and tell another bunch of animals how to bury their ****? It hasn't worked out well in the past. We should keep our noses out and let them deal with things how they want. Troops went to Vietnam; troops went to Afghanistan... and it never ends well. We are a small but great nation, and we should be happy with that. Let others do as they will. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Wars are fought and there are casualties along the way, but they are fought to combat injustices, and for the better of the people in most cases. If the world sat by and let things happen I would not like to comprehend where we might be today with such an attitude.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Wars are fought and there are casualties along the way, but they are fought to combat injustices, and for the better of the people in most cases. If the world sat by and let things happen I would not like to comprehend where we might be today with such an attitude.

There are injustices in every country... we just don't have the troops to combat everything we as a nation do not agree with.

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Wars are fought and there are casualties along the way, but they are fought to combat injustices, and for the better of the people in most cases. If the world sat by and let things happen I would not like to comprehend where we might be today with such an attitude.

Bang on. The wars helped kids not to get raped and abused by the Paedo talibans and the treatment of woman there was ridiculous as in Iraq Saddam tortured civilians the way they would be treated 1000 years ago. Send troops in
show them how the big boys do it.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

What do you suggest we do? Send our troops to yet another hole of a country and tell another bunch of animals how to bury their ****? It hasn't worked out well in the past. We should keep our noses out and let them deal with things how they want. Troops went to Vietnam; troops went to Afghanistan... and it never ends well. We are a small but great nation, and we should be happy with that. Let others do as they will. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

This is a really difficult one - because although I do believe it is everyone's business - at the same time I agree with what you say and don't want our troops sent there as well! It is always easy for people who have no emotional involvement to shout 'send the troops in' - but those troops are someone's loved ones - and it just isn't good enough to say 'there are casualties along the way' - just as long as it isn't them or their loved ones hey!

Maybe other things such as very extreme international sanctions - restricting imports and exports into the country and such like - make life very difficult for those in the government. It would be a slower process - of course, but I don't see why people from other nations should die in order for people from that country to be allowed openness about their sexuality.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

it just isn't good enough to say 'there are casualties along the way' - just as long as it isn't them or their loved ones hey!

Quite presumptious of you.