[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

the joe had to think about this long and hard and trust me when i say them and there familys are living a life sentace and it is far from happy. i just think its time to move on as the law of the land has spoken and we have to accecpt it. so my reply to my question is yes < whats yours ?




age of criminal responsibility



this is mega in the news,

the bulger boy trouble did instigate,

i no what they did,

but the age we criminalise we need to investigate.

this is a extreme case,

other factors have to be considered,

what have these boys been through,

to have pure evil delivered.

from what i have heard,

there up bringing was brutal,

with no love and care,

i am not surprised they ended up far from fruitful.

with all this in place,

there age of responsibility must be a exception,

kids are a product of there environment,

and my justification lies with there daily reception.

the law of this land has spoke,

venables and thompson lost there child hood years,

they have paid there debt to society,

but, no one wins in this case of pure tears.

[Beso]

No, they should have been hung when they turned 18.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by beso

No, they should have been hung when they turned 18.

Why waste all that money on housing them etc for 8 years, why not hang them when they were ten? Straight after they were found guilty, straight out and on the end of a rope eh? Would that satiate to your bloodlust?

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Joe444

the joe

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Why waste all that money on housing them etc for 8 years, why not hang them when they were ten? Straight after they were found guilty, straight out and on the end of a rope eh? Would that satiate to your bloodlust?

If you can't debate thats me and you finished with the conversation.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by beso

If you can't debate thats me and you finished with the conversation.

No need to get a shitty on, was you said hang them, I said why waste the money waiting till they were 18.

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Say that about most of your posts.

[Beso]

The moral outrage would have been unbearable to hang them when they were ten, less so when 18. Thats why. "THE JOE" only thompson had a disturbed upbringing, venables however by all accounts had a "normal" upbringing and he was considered the worst off the two.

[Shasown]

Yeah but why hang them? I mean Shipman took loads of lives, he got done for 15, some of the investigating officers say he done at least twice that, others say his total could be well into the hundreds. Admitted he was hung in the end but that was at his own hand, not the states.

[Tom]

I think theres a certain degree of society failing them 2, especially in the case of Venables. He clearly wasn't ready to face the real world and it was beyond expectation for them to try and live a normal life. Your teen years are what make you in life, and they were locked away for them.

[Stacey.]

The Joe is epic

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Joe444

the joe had to think about this long and hard and trust me when i say them and there familys are living a life sentace and it is far from happy. i just think its time to move on as the law of the land has spoken and we have to accecpt it. so my reply to my question is yes < whats yours ?




age of criminal responsibility



this is mega in the news,

the bulger boy trouble did instigate,

i no what they did,

but the age we criminalise we need to investigate.

this is a extreme case,

other factors have to be considered,

what have these boys been through,

to have pure evil delivered.

from what i have heard,

there up bringing was brutal,

with no love and care,

i am not surprised they ended up far from fruitful.

with all this in place,

there age of responsibility must be a exception,

kids are a product of there environment,

and my justification lies with there daily reception.

the law of this land has spoke,

venables and thompson lost there child hood years,

they have paid there debt to society,

but, no one wins in this case of pure tears.

Another good one Joe - very poignant!

I have mixed feelings - a part of me wants to say they must be evil to commit such a crime - but another part says what happened in their lives to make them capable of such an atrocity - what other factors may have been involved that we are not necessarily aware of?

Fact is they were 10 - it is so young - Thompson may be so remorseful now he is older and fully aware of what he did. They may have mental health problems - maybe that is why Venables has gone on to re-offend. Who knows - it isn't black and white!

[Stacey.]

tbh its terrible.. just no excuse for it.

[Tom4784]

It's a very difficult subject. For me personally it's naive I know but I believe most kids can be put on the right path because they're still children and they're still learning. They should have done the time obviously but if they were rehabilitated right and carefully then they might not have been a threat when they were released as adults. Nip the problems a child has when they're a kid since they'll only be bigger, stronger and more dangerous as an adult if you don't.

Child Criminality and rehabilitation is an utter minefield, do it wrong and you can mess someone up for life.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by shasown

yeah but why hang them? I mean shipman took loads of lives, he got done for 15, some of the investigating officers say he done at least twice that, others say his total could be well into the hundreds. Admitted he was hung in the end but that was at his own hand, not the states.

they should have hung him along with all the rapists and child molestors and murderers.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by beso

they should have hung him along with all the rapists and child molestors and murderers.

Lets just hope then that if they do bring back the death penalty, you never be incorrectly convicted of one of the above crimes, eh?

[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

if they bring back the death penality < i will be hung for my strong view poems lol there is no greater crime lol i leave everything i own to stacey and whobai dont forget me on big brother message board what ever you do lol

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Joe444

if they bring back the death penality < i will be hung for my strong view poems lol there is no greater crime lol i leave everything i own to stacey and whobai dont forget me on big brother message board what ever you do lol

We love you Joe!!!

[WOMBAI]

Me and Stacey would karate chop em if they tried - hey stace!

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Me and Stacey would karate chop em if they tried - hey stace!

yes, we would!

[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

big kiss well 2 big kisses lol (K)

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Joe444

big kiss well 2 big kisses lol (K)

right back at ya!

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

right back at ya!

So stacey we have

Jack
Jords
Nina
Andy
and now
Joe

Who else was there?

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

So stacey we have

Jack
Jords
Nina
Andy
and now
Joe

Who else was there?

that was it.
could add more though, i guess!

[Zippy]

No. They were only locked up for their childhood. And children adapt very quickly so it probably didnt even seem like punishment.

They still have their entire adulthood in freedom. Should have been locked up until at least 25 to give them a proper sense of punishment. And a sense of justice to Jamies family.