[hennessy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That is the point though - men tend to ignore symptoms of more serious illness - hoping they will go away! It is common knowledge - and the medical profession have attempted health promotion for more common male cancers - in an attempt to get men to check themselves and go to the doctor!

I think you'll find us men tend to check our nuts regularly
and I want dinner brought before I even think about a prostate exam

[MissKittyFantastico]

Most men live their lives in a state of denial, that's what it is.

Women are better at facing problems head on and doing what needs to be done.

[InOne]

Women, they are crazy lol Alot tell me they are!!!

[rayheartbliss]

cocks.

[Niamh.]

Well, It breaks my hubbys heart to have to hand €50 over to the doctor, I know that's his reason, can't answer for any other men though!

[*mazedsalv**]

Traditionally and sterotypically being ill is like being weak, just like showing emotion is being weak, men are stereotypically supposed to be strong, brave and not supposed to cry. Its all changed now, you dont need to be macho all the time.
But they want to be, so we want to be in control.

[Beastie]

Men are scared of Wombai.

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[InOne]

Originally Posted by thebeast

Men are scared of Wombai.

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I could handle Wombai

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by InOne

I could handle Wombai

Famous last words!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Famous last words!

sounds interesting lol

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by InOne

sounds interesting lol

Have you a death wish?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Have you a death wish?

Haha, i'm sure you're not that bad!!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by InOne

Haha, i'm sure you're not that bad!!

I'm not - big softie really!

[sooty]

Originally Posted by thebeast

Men are scared of Wombai.

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[Zippy]

Women are just naturally more in touch with their bodies. You have periods early on which almost forces you to be. And your bodies are also baby making machines so you have a natural instinct to take care of it more.

Then there is the male ego. Again, they are instinctively more macho and prone to not admitting weakness. Plus they dont want their bits groped and anus probed by strangers. Well, not for medical reasons anyhow. *wink*

But the reasons are mostly primal, instinctive and down to good ole Mother nature. You can pretty much blame her for every bad trait in men. Im sure you agree, Wombai?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Women are just naturally more in touch with their bodies. You have periods early on which almost forces you to be. And your bodies are also baby making machines so you have a natural instinct to take care of it more.

Then there is the male ego. Again, they are instinctively more macho and prone to not admitting weakness. Plus they dont want their bits groped and anus probed by strangers. Well, not for medical reasons anyhow. *wink*

But the reasons are mostly primal, instinctive and down to good ole Mother nature. You can pretty much blame her for every bad trait in men. Im sure you agree, Wombai?

The famous 'nature/nuture' debate! It is a bit of both - but mother nature only plays a small part - the rest is down to good old ego!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That is the point though - men tend to ignore symptoms of more serious illness - hoping they will go away! It is common knowledge - and the medical profession have attempted health promotion for more common male cancers - in an attempt to get men to check themselves and go to the doctor!

As someone who has had the misfortune of testicular cancer and watched a couple of the guys on my Clinical Oncology rotation die, it is not that simple. It took the medical profession 3 years and a lot of me pressing them before they diagnosed my tumour. Contrary to the accepted wisdom, having a tumour doesn't suddenly make you as Viz's Buster Gonad.

As someone who has been thru the ringer, I can honestly tell you that the NHS is in flux and it is not really a male irrational response to hope 'it goes away' as they're not geared-up for many or the male cancers.

In a perfect world they'd have testicle screening clinics just as they have breast screening clinics for women. But the world if far from perfect.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Claymores

As someone who has had the misfortune of testicular cancer and watched a couple of the guys on my Clinical Oncology rotation die, it is not that simple. It took the medical profession 3 years and a lot of me pressing them before they diagnosed my tumour. Contrary to the accepted wisdom, having a tumour doesn't suddenly make you as Viz's Buster Gonad.

As someone who has been thru the ringer, I can honestly tell you that the NHS is in flux and it is not really a male irrational response to hope 'it goes away' as they're not geared-up for many or the male cancers.

In a perfect world they'd have testicle screening clinics just as they have breast screening clinics for women. But the world if far from perfect.

You were sensible and did the right thing. Hopefully the younger generation of men are becoming more aware of these things and facing such things head-on as you did! You set a good example!

The NHS need to be better prepared for these things as well - and yes I agree that testicle screening clinics would be a good idea. However, breast screening is not available across the board - it is only generally for women over 50 as that is when it is more common.

[Claymores]

I don't think I'm any sort of shining example but I take some of your points WOMBAI.

If the statistic is that cancer will directly impact on 1 in 3 during their lives then blokes have to realise that isn't 1 in 3 women but people! I further realise that many blokes have a problem with the idea of having to drop their trousers and allow a stranger to inspect.

As you/I have mentioned, it's better that than end up dead.

[Crimson Dynamo]

never go to the doctors

no way

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

never go to the doctors

no way

"The Voice of Reason" strikes again - only go to the doctors if you start seeing white military jumbos doing handbrake turns over your house eh LT?!

[karezza]

I am afraid of Catholic priests.

[30stone]

Girls always go to the doctors when they have a little problem..

I was taken to the doctors as a child when i was 3.

I was made to go doctors at age 11 when i had an ear infection on holiday.

And i get hayfever tablets from doctors most years.

But other than that ive never been..
Ive been in pain but never thought to go doctors.

[sooty]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

never go to the doctors

no way

Are you scared of doctors, LT?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Girls always go to the doctors when they have a little problem..

I was taken to the doctors as a child when i was 3.

I was made to go doctors at age 11 when i had an ear infection on holiday.

And i get hayfever tablets from doctors most years.

But other than that ive never been..
Ive been in pain but never thought to go doctors.

Your'e young without many health problems! Hope if and when they develop you have enough sense to go get things checked out!

Girls/women in general are more aware of the consequences of health problems, whilst in general more boys/men are more inclined to turn a blind eye, hoping symptoms will go away.

Women in general are not just 'hypochondriacs' as you are implying! From experience, and generally accepted as common knowledge - men are more likely to be 'demanding' and divaish when ill! In other words - they make more of a fuss about being ill!