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Originally Posted by Shasown

Aid may be going in but it is an insufficient amount, the UN states its about 25% of what is actually needed to sustain the Palestinian people. Thats why food etc is smuggled in from Egypt in tunnels.

I do agree that backing to Hamas should be stopped but a blockade that slowly starves an entire people is wrong. If you look back and understand why Hamas was voted into power you will see Israel were the root cause.

I take it you didnt see Tony Blair on the news last night making the same claims and asking that Israel at least operate the blockade imposed on Gaza in a humanitarian way?



Palestine was a mandated area under the League of Nations since just after the first world war. The jewish people supported by US President Wison decided to ignore the mandate and stated moving into the area having tried and failed to take over areas of Africa to form a homeland. Israel wasnt formed until 1948.

Not all Arabs follow a nomadic way of life there was towns Villages and cities there before the Jewish people decided to take over it.

By being the first to settle the area do you mean the tribes of Israel under Moses etc? If so re read your bible, they fought battles against peoples back then to clear the area first.

OK, question your logic for a moment.

If only 25% is going in (I've heard, not enough... but 25% (and then you have to question HOW MUCH aid and who pays for it)) then, considering, we know 10 thousand to 20 thousand tonnes if pumped in regularly for 1.5 million people, on a weekly basis and this is not enough... how could a convoy of ships, yes?, with 15,000 tonnes of aid only have been enough?

That's just the first part of how ridiculously stupid this stunt was but also how it had nothing to do with aid.

Now... about aid... as I said in the previous post - should Gaza hold us to ransom for their development? If they, as a state, cannot elect or allow Israel to fund them and create a thriving economy (which is what the Arabs wanted a part of and couldn't achieve over millenia, more on this late) then they die. That's just about as simple as it is.

On the one hand, Gaza thinks the US and the UK and the west and China and India are all corrupt and nasty and decadent and liberal nutcases but they want millions and millions of pounds of our aid. Oh it's fine to take our freebies but Eff off with your principles... now how does that work?

We cannot build Gaza. Charities cannot build Gaza. They have a lifeline from Israel which they don't accept because, Oh my God, they're Jews - evil Jews... and we want our country back (which was never theirs).

Now quickly about who owns Israel. Well... nobody does. But who ruined Israel - well that one is easy... the Muslims did. Post Mohammed, actually pre-Mohammed being kicked out of a town in Arabia the large proportion of that part of the world was nomadic. You went where the food was and where your cattle grazed. The Bible says one thing but they were all nomadic. Up until the 19th century that was the case until it was important to create a state in Palestine and who built that, who formulated it, who created an amazing economy - the Jews... while the Arabs just twiddle their thumbs wanting everything the Jews had built. Have the Arabs done that in any of their other states? God no... they just don't know how to do anything other than fighting against other muslims. That's all they've been about since the beginning of time. They went into Israel, converted everybody into Islam with a sword and fear and then moved on until they were pushed back from southern Spain because they knew nothing of trade and development and were kicked out when they ran out of money. This has been the state of muslims and will continue to be when they run out of oil in the middle east and continue terrorist activity which is the only commodity they appear to know when they haven't got ownership of natural resources.

While the rest of the world is thriving.

There was no need therefore for this convoy to go there. Biden has said, like he always says, come to us and the UK says, come to us, we'll negotiate delivery of aid... what's wrong with that? It was a miniscule amount of aid compared to what is delivered in there... but you tell me in terms of aid.

Is enough aid being sent to India?

How about Pakistan? Afghanistan? China? Africa? South America??

Who gets enough aid? OK... how about the UK... do we, in our sink estates, in our inner cities, get enough aid? Who gets enough aid in the world today?

How about people who need drugs for their disease or people without healthcare...

Which poverty stricken individual in the world today gets aid?

You see the problem with the logic when trying to give charity?

Gaza is getting aid but if anybody thinks we're going to create Bath Spa over night there is living on cloud cuckoo land!

A lot countries need aid. It's not a perfect world but the Muslims and their "charities" shouldn't be forcing people to give aid in one part of of the world, one miniscule area of the world when the west are trying to pump money all over the world.

Gaza needs to realise they have no higher sense of entitlement over others.