[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

oh right, so you can't.

yet you constantly demand others do


She was tipsy at best, most of them were, but never never 'out of control I don't know wtf I am doing' pissed. She was 100% aware of her actions and is 100% accountable for them.

No footage available of that night, BB made it so.

I'm not only asking for footage though am i? I've asked for links to posts made by Tamams, pre Josie's paranoid ranting, that mentioned smirking and muttering by Caoimhe.

While i'm here, have you got any posts mentioning it? Apparently she did it all the time.

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by vesavius

oh right, so you can't.

yet you constantly demand others do


She was tipsy at best, most of them were, but never never 'out of control I don't know wtf I am doing' pissed. She was 100% aware of her actions and is 100% accountable for them.

hehe I know! Talk about asking of others what you cannot do yourself! It's such a double standard!! If you can't give evidence you are lying and not to be trusted, but he expects you to take his word for it! lmao

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

hehe I know! Talk about asking of others what you cannot do yourself! It's such a double standard!! If you can't give evidence you are lying and not to be trusted, but he expects you to take his word for it! lmao

How about a single post of yours with Caoimhe mentioned as smirking/muttering? Or are you just parroting Josie the known fibber?

I can find loads saying Caoimhe was pissed.

[MrBlack]

Originally Posted by alc09

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I hope she is on the first flight back to Ireland.

its the Real reason you hate her so much..isn't it..

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

How about a single post of yours with Caoimhe mentioned as smirking/muttering? Or are you just parroting Josie the known fibber?

I can find loads saying Caoimhe was pissed.

You are really offering up forum posts as evidence? Really? Because the forums are so known for being so truthful, objective, non biased, and trustworthy?

Real evidence please, like you asked off me. Either give it, or stop asking for it imo.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You are really offering up forum posts as evidence? Really? Because the forums are so known for being so truthful, objective, non biased, and trustworthy?

Real evidence please, like you asked off me. Either give it, or stop asking for it imo.

I see, so you are using Josie's propaganda as evidence of this muttering and smirking.... FairyNuff, as you were.

The Caoimhe is pissed posts are much easier to find. Probably because it happened and she was.

[Zippy]

MrWrong mentioning Josie in every post. Oh dear. Still obsessed I see!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I see, so you are using Josie's propaganda as evidence of this muttering and smirking.... FairyNuff, as you were.

The Caoimhe is pissed posts are much easier to find. Probably because it happened and she was.

I have covered this already, you are just repeating yourself now

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by alc09

Glad she has gone, a horrible person and very poor HM.

I hope she is on the first flight back to Ireland.

too right, and just watching her on BBLB hasnt made me change my mind.

Awesome that Heat magazine seem to to see things with a little more clarity then most of the posters here, which genuinely shocked me.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

hehe I know! Talk about asking of others what you cannot do yourself! It's such a double standard!! If you can't give evidence you are lying and not to be trusted, but he expects you to take his word for it! lmao

Plenty of double-standards from the Josie supporters I'd say!

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Josielover

Great post. I totally agree with what you said. I hate that everyone is blaming josie for Caoimhe finally leaving. She's been wanting to leave for a while, this is more 'the straw that broke the camel's back' than the main reason she left.

Well I hope that Josie learns something. JJ crying because Caoimhe left should tell everyone including Joise that he liked Caoimhe a lot. He enjoyed her company.

JJ uses Josie and she wont accept this because she clings on to him because Josie knows he will be popular with the public. She has said this often.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by boomoo

Well I hope that Josie learns something. JJ crying because Caoimhe left should tell everyone including Joise that he liked Caoimhe a lot. He enjoyed her company.

JJ uses Josie and she wont accept this because she clings on to him because Josie knows he will be popular with the public. She has said this often.

and his said it about josie aswell on life feed it was though.

but he said that he thinks josies popular outside.

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by vesavius

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Awesome that Heat magazine seem to to see things with a little more clarity then most of the posters here, which genuinely shocked me.

Yes, I watched this as well and that took me back. I don't buy Heat ever but I assumed they would be following the official BB line and just reporting it like the BB website. I am actually very impressed they bothered to look deeper.

[Enid]

I pretty much said the same thing in another thread.

Caoimhe support is ridiculous. How anyone can justify her sly and catty behaviour is beyond me. She cried wolf and in the end, nobody really gave a sh!t except JJ. Josie didn't even care. Good riddance to the bitch.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Enid

I pretty much said the same thing in another thread.

Caoimhe support is ridiculous. How anyone can justify her sly and catty behaviour is beyond me. She cried wolf and in the end, nobody really gave a sh!t except JJ. Josie didn't even care. Good riddance to the bitch.

we remember her kind caring side towards ben when the whole house ganged up on him.

she was the only one brave enough to stand up to the group to their faces and she went on to comfort ben afterwards.

Unfortunately ben has been nowhere near her in her hour of need.

No wonder she bloomin left.friends like him and josie, who needs enemies huh.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

we remember her kind caring side towards ben when the whole house ganged up on him.

she was the only one brave enough to stand up to the group to their faces and she went on to comfort ben afterwards.

Unfortunately ben has been nowhere near her in her hour of need.

No wonder she bloomin left.friends like him and josie, who needs enemies huh.

to be fair she went off ben because jj said so.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No wonder she bloomin left.friends like him and josie, who needs enemies huh.

Neither Ben or Josie were her friends by the time she left, which was completely down to her own actions and attitude.

In fact, knowing this was why she left.

She had alientated everyone in that house over the weeks, simply by being herself.

[LadyNay]

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I liked her a lot at first and she still is very entertaining, but she is being a bitch. There's no denying that. She's known JJ how long? All she's ever said before the wet tshirt incident was "I have to admit, I fancy JJ in a football kit" or "Sometimes I like him, but sometimes I want to strangle him". She's not really made it clear that no one else is allowed to flirt with him. Or that he's not allowed to spend large amounts of time with other females in the house. She needs to get a grip because she is one of the best HMs in there, love her or hate her & has a good chance of winning.

I find it ridiculous that FMs blindly defend HMs, unless they're actually friends or family. As much as I find it ridiculous that FMs attack HMs for how they look. People take this programme waaaaaay to seriously.

She's definately not as innocent as you like to believe, in fact I think she's very clever & quite sneaky. But you can't deny the girl makes good TV

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LadyNay

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I liked her a lot at first and she still is very entertaining, but she is being a bitch. There's no denying that. She's known JJ how long? All she's ever said before the wet tshirt incident was "I have to admit, I fancy JJ in a football kit" or "Sometimes I like him, but sometimes I want to strangle him". She's not really made it clear that no one else is allowed to flirt with him. Or that he's not allowed to spend large amounts of time with other females in the house. She needs to get a grip because she is one of the best HMs in there, love her or hate her & has a good chance of winning.

I find it ridiculous that FMs blindly defend HMs, unless they're actually friends or family. As much as I find it ridiculous that FMs attack HMs for how they look. People take this programme waaaaaay to seriously.

She's definately not as innocent as you like to believe, in fact I think she's very clever & quite sneaky. But you can't deny the girl makes good TV

Good post!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Enid

I pretty much said the same thing in another thread.

Caoimhe support is ridiculous. How anyone can justify her sly and catty behaviour is beyond me. She cried wolf and in the end, nobody really gave a sh!t except JJ. Josie didn't even care. Good riddance to the bitch.

Josie just gets most of the hate because she is at the top of the bookies faves tbh, and by definition has most fans of other HMs looking to chip her down constantly.

If she had treated Caoimhe in the same way Caoimhe has treated her people trying to protect their own fave HM would still hate her, just because she is perceived as a threat to them. They are only saying Caoimhe is right so they can say Josie is wrong, if you get me.

This is why it's so hard to talk to a lot of people properly around here... most just post 'No! You suck!' or 'Shes a fat bitch!'.. It's pretty rare to get any kind of real conversation about the whole picture.

[Tamtam]

I really thought of this thread when watching the highlights tonight and how much they agreed with the OP.

[Jamietwo]

i agree with the op .....josie is not responsible for camels feelings...camel tried to twist it and josie did feel guilty, but there was no need to at all.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

i agree with the op .....josie is not responsible for camels feelings...camel tried to twist it and josie did feel guilty, but there was no need to at all.

And Keeva and JJ were not responsible for Josie and her insecure jealousy! Josie has absolutely no self-control - and thinks she is the most important person in there!