[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And why is it that? Is it because OFCOM implement the rules? Yes. Yes it is.

Hence my argument to bobnot's point, which was:



So no, it's not John's fault that it can't be live much anymore, it's the fault of OFCOM and this overly PC society

That's why...

It isn't being overly "PC" at all...

The "F" word is accepted as a strong profanity, as is most swearing so of course it isn't going to be allowed of daytime TV when children can be watching...

Do you think porno's should be shown at lunchtime on BBC 1 too??

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

It isn't being overly "PC" at all...

The "F" word is accepted as a strong profanity, as is most swearing so of course it isn't going to be allowed of daytime TV when children can be watching...

Do you think porno's should be shown at lunchtime on BBC 1 too??

LOL. I love this assumption people continually seem to make. What an over exaggeration.

There's a big difference between a four letter word being said and an over exaggerated, completely sexualised, false portrayal of sex being shown.

A) People swear in front of each other
B) Generally, people do not have sex in front of each other

Regardless of that, if it were for educational purposes, I would see no problem with sex being shown on TV.

A four letter word that people constantly get pissy over, is not something that we should all be spitting our dummies out for.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

LOL. I love this assumption people continually seem to make. What an over exaggeration.

There's a big difference between a four letter word being said and an over exaggerated, completely sexualised, false portrayal of sex being shown.

A) People swear in front of each other
B) Generally, people do not have sex in front of each other

Regardless of that, if it were for educational purposes, I would see no problem with sex being shown on TV.

A four letter word that people constantly get pissy over, is not something that we should all be spitting our dummies out for.

I swear yes, but not infront of young kids... and young kids could be watching TV at that time of day...

Once again, it didn't offend me at all.... I am just saying that it is not overly PC & silly to not allow swearing on daytime TV...

I have no problem with swearing (or sex) on TV, but it needs to be at an appropriate time...

[Shardlake]

At the end of the day 'thems the rules' and it is the law, and is the reason we have a watershed in this country.

Simple as that.

If you cant obide by the rules of society then you arent going to get very far

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I swear yes, but not infront of young kids... and young kids could be watching TV at that time of day...

Once again, it didn't offend me at all.... I am just saying that it is not overly PC & silly to not allow swearing on daytime TV...

I have no problem with swearing (or sex) on TV, but it needs to be at an appropriate time...

Why though?

Putting restrictions on such things only encourages people to do it more, a bit like when you see a 'Wet Paint' sign and you want to touch it, when you know you shouldn't, and it also teaches people that it's wrong. And is sex wrong? No, no it isn't. So why should it be portrayed as that?

And swearing is only 'wrong' if you are the type of person that likes to get pissy over a four letter word, really. Personally, to quote John "I couldn't give a rip"...because, really, it's just a four letter word. There's far worse things like paedophiles, murderers and rapists that I would try my best to protect my children from. Honestly, a four letter word that they're going to end up saying at some point in their life is not the biggest of my concerns, nor should it be for anyone. It's not going to kill them...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Why though?

Putting restrictions on such things only encourages people to do it more, a bit like when you see a 'Wet Paint' sign and you want to touch it, when you know you shouldn't, and it also teaches people that it's wrong. And is sex wrong? No, no it isn't. So why should it be portrayed as that?

And swearing is only 'wrong' if you are the type of person that likes to get pissy over a four letter word, really. Personally, to quote John "I couldn't give a rip"...because, really, it's just a four letter word. There's far worse things like paedophiles, murderers and rapists that I would try my best to protect my children from. Honestly, a four letter word that they're going to end up saying at some point in their life is not the biggest of my concerns, nor should it be for anyone. It's not going to kill them...

It's not about the PC brigade or complaining to Ofcom... it's about having manners and consideration for the feelings of others. I happen to quite like swearing, so long as it's being done by someone with a wide vocabulary and in the right company I think swearing can be highly creative. However, thinking you can just use bad language in any situation makes you seem kind of immature.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Livia

I happen to quite like swearing, so long as it's being done by someone with a wide vocabulary and in the right company I think swearing can be highly creative.

As do I, but I'm not going to get pissy and throw my toys out of the pram if someone who doesn't live up to those standards swore.

It's got nothing to do with 'being immature'...it's a word. You know...like 'wall' or 'cat.

It might have a meaning but Jeez...who cares? There's far more important things to be worrying about in this world than a word.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

As do I, but I'm not going to get pissy and throw my toys out of the pram if someone who doesn't live up to those standards swore.

It's got nothing to do with 'being immature'...it's a word. You know...like 'wall' or 'cat.

It might have a meaning but Jeez...who cares? There's far more important things to be worrying about in this world than a word.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess...

No, it's not a word like Cat or Wall. And you can swear to your heart's content as far as I'm concerned. If, however, I you were were swearing and I had my young neices with me, I would care. In fact, you and I would have to have a conversation about it. Similarly I don't want to turn on the TV and hear someone eff and blind on my telly halfway thought the day.

Yes, there are worse things going on in the world. But that doesn't mean I want to hear someone who can't control themselves be ill-mannered enough to swear in front of kids. Or me, for that matter. I don't want to hear it on the telly during the day.

I have no idea where you're going with the boat floating thing.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

As do I, but I'm not going to get pissy and throw my toys out of the pram if someone who doesn't live up to those standards swore.

It's got nothing to do with 'being immature'...it's a word. You know...like 'wall' or 'cat.

It might have a meaning but Jeez...who cares? There's far more important things to be worrying about in this world than a word.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess...

You are completely missing the point!! He can swear all he likes,but surely there is a time and a place and Yes it shows signs of immaturity.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I swear yes, but not infront of young kids... and young kids could be watching TV at that time of day...

Once again, it didn't offend me at all.... I am just saying that it is not overly PC & silly to not allow swearing on daytime TV...

I have no problem with swearing (or sex) on TV, but it needs to be at an appropriate time...

Some people only care about themselves and what they want,they don't care what influences our kids get from immature morons who think it's ok, and cool to swear infront of kids,No wonder kids are like they are today,no morals and no disapline