[Jack_]

Originally Posted by angus58

Then presumably you should pay for the extra seat? One seat, one bum - packages and other paraphernalia is the passenger's problem; I would sit on any packages if they were not moved when politely asked, and be happy to sue anyone for assault if they so much as laid a single finger on me.

And what about the small matter of vandalism to other people's personal possessions?

For the record - I also agree with you and others that the person in question should've also given up their seat, and I would happily [well, not happily, as I'd rather have no one sat next to me - but without any fuss] move my bags to let someone sit down.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And what about the small matter of vandalism to other people's personal possessions?

For the record - I also agree with you and others that the person in question should've also given up their seat, and I would happily [well, not happily, as I'd rather have no one sat next to me - but without any fuss] move my bags to let someone sit down.

If they have had the option to remove their belongings and refused to do so and cannot produce a legitimate ticket for the extra seat - in legal terms they have not a leg to stand on since the seat was not paid for by them and their belongings had no right to be there when a paying passenger, ie.ME had purchased it. The few times I have resorted to self help by lowering myself into the seat, the belongings have been whipped away in record time

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by angus58

If they have had the option to remove their belongings and refused to do so and cannot produce a legitimate ticket for the extra seat - in legal terms they have not a leg to stand on since the seat was not paid for by them and their belongings had no right to be there when a paying passenger, ie.ME had purchased it. The few times I have resorted to self help by lowering myself into the seat, the belongings have been whipped away in record time

Of course - but you'd still have vandalised their possessions, and two wrongs don't make a right, do they?

And what would you do, for example, if there were two suitcases on top of each other on the seat? How would you sit down then?

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Of course - but you'd still have vandalised their possessions, and two wrongs don't make a right, do they?

And what would you do, for example, if there were two suitcases on top of each other on the seat? How would you sit down then?

I wouldn't give a toss about "vandalising" their possessions - if I paid for a seat I would take it and certainly wouldn't be agonising over it. As regards the hypothetical suitcases, I would simply remove them then sit down as they have no business being on a seat I have paid for. I have had to do this on one occasion and was totally impervious to the abuse of the moron who had placed them there. THEY were in the wrong, not me. End of.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And what about the small matter of vandalism to other people's personal possessions?

For the record - I also agree with you and others that the person in question should've also given up their seat, and I would happily [well, not happily, as I'd rather have no one sat next to me - but without any fuss] move my bags to let someone sit down.

Yeah, and I think the majority of people are decent enough to do the same, but there's always a few ignoramuses!