[ange7]

Originally Posted by arista

Very True
Tom.

"Students should just go and get a proper job"
instead of those "unproper" jobs you get when you complete a uni dgree.
mahahahah!
hilarious.
Are you missing deal or no deal Tom?

[Judas]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I do think the violence is self-defeating though.

Go back a hundred years when woman were campaigning for the vote, the Suffragetts were out there planting bombs, starting fires etc; they did more harm than good to their cause, the same can be said here.

Sorry, I obviously wasn't clear. I think the protest 'Demo' (the march) is perfect, and to some extent I feel that gathering at Milbank was good - I even thought up to the point where the fire was lit a good point was made. However, I do disagree in theory with the smashing of the windows and pursuing violence.

(Although it did make me feel a little bit happy to think about Nick Clegs reaction)

[BOOSH]

I'm a student and was actually going to go to this.
But, my university had planned to just march around, none of this crazy **** that has been going on.
Nothing wrong with protesting, I'm sorry but who the hell is going to afford 9 grand a year for uni? Harldy anyone from where I'm from.
So yeah fucking protest against it!
But in a sensible way, now nothing is going to happen thanks to the people who have gone mental with it.

[Judas]

Originally Posted by Livia

Rather that than have someone on a really low wage paying for your degree through their taxes.

It isn't though...the largest percent of tax income comes from GRADUATES, therefore you can't suggest the current system acts as the opposite of a Robin Hood scheme.

[MTVN]

The Ł9,000 figure is being thrown around a lot but how many Unis will actually charge that. Other than Oxbridge, I'd imagine it would be very few (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though)

[Scarlett.]

What a bunch of wasters

[ange7]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Those were my words, although I did not say that the system should "promote education just for the rich kids who's "daddies" are cashed up"

Not that hard to understand is it.

Apparently it is.
Those that can afford a user pays or pay as you go uni education will be rich not poor. Get it?
Instead of the the best and brightest getting a place at uni you get the richest...some of whom will be mongs with rich daddies. Get it?
Yes you did not "say" the system should "promote education just for the rich kids who's "daddies" are cashed up". You just argued for it.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Chewy

What a bunch of wasters

What happened on Corrie today? You should tweet about it.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by ange7

Apparently it is.
Those that can afford a user pays or pay as you go uni education will be rich not poor. Get it?
Instead of the the best and brightest getting a place at uni you get the richest...some of whom will be mongs with rich daddies. Get it?
Yes you did not "say" the system should "promote education just for the rich kids who's "daddies" are cashed up". You just argued for it.

Not necessarily because as I said:

- Students dont have to pay the money back straight away, and wont have to until they're earning over Ł21,000 or something like that

- Any universities that do choose to charge the maximum figure has to prove they're doing more to allow lower earners to go to University.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by ange7

What happened on Corrie today? You should tweet about it.

I don't know I've been too busy working my 10 hour a day job for the past two weeks, no days off you see.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Chewy

What a bunch of wasters

Bang On Right
Chewy

[ange7]

Originally Posted by BOOSH

I'm a student and was actually going to go to this.
But, my university had planned to just march around, none of this crazy **** that has been going on.
Nothing wrong with protesting, I'm sorry but who the hell is going to afford 9 grand a year for uni? Harldy anyone from where I'm from.
So yeah fucking protest against it!
But in a sensible way, now nothing is going to happen thanks to the people who have gone mental with it.

"I'm sorry but who the hell is going to afford 9 grand a year for uni?"
Rich kids who get that as a monthly allowance... that's who. Imagine if all students came from cashed up families. They wouldn't even bother studing O levels since dad will buy them in. Uni would be full of cashed up mongs. That's how bad it could get if this idea of student paying for a degree continues down the path it's on.

We need the smartest at uni...from which ever background, not just the ones who can afford it.

[BOOSH]

Originally Posted by ange7

"I'm sorry but who the hell is going to afford 9 grand a year for uni?"
Rich kids who get that as a monthly allowance... that's who. Imagine if all students came from cashed up families. They wouldn't even bother studing O levels since dad will buy them in. Uni would be full of cashed up mongs. That's how bad it could get if this idea of student paying for a degree continues down the path it's on.

We need the smartest at uni...from which ever background, not just the ones who can afford it.

I worked really hard for uni even if I am doing a Film & Media degree, which someone has already said isn't a "proper" degree, which is absolute bollocks.
I need, like so many others I'm in Uni with, for this not to go ahead.
What is the point of making it much more expensive than it already is.
Ohh so rich people can only get in?
This world has gone to shit.

[LemonJam]

I went, but I left when they started smashing windows and setting fire to ****. Now I doubt we'll be taken seriously. Sake.

[Shaun]

Absolute idiots. The ones wearing bandanas don't even look like the type that would qualify for Uni, other than a course in horse-grooming or something.

Unfortunately - they're going to destroy the integrity and message of the mature protestors. Or so the Government will say...

[arista]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

I went, but I left when they started smashing windows and setting fire to ****. Now I doubt we'll be taken seriously. Sake.

Yes the NUS leader is angry
it went wrong.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Absolute idiots. The ones wearing bandanas don't even look like the type that would qualify for Uni, other than a course in horse-grooming or something.

domos like this attract all sorts but the peaceful protesters will be tarred with the same brush.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Absolute idiots. The ones wearing bandanas don't even look like the type that would qualify for Uni, other than a course in horse-grooming or something.

Unfortunately - they're going to destroy the integrity and message of the mature protestors. Or so the Government will say...

Yes I think Every paper front page tomorrow
will have this Criminal part of it.

[MTVN]

Looks like it's calmed down a bit now anyway..

[_Seth]

They can't have all that swearing (fingers being stuck up) before 9..

[BOOSH]

Someone in a hoodie and a scarf on his face being taken away by police...

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Looks like it's calmed down a bit now anyway..

Yes the Bigger Amount of Riot Police
are holding the Criminal Students in the Lobby
waiting for the outside area to clear
as the Clear the others away.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by BOOSH

Someone in a hoodie and a scarf on his face being taken away by police...

I wonder how many people like him are even students.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I wonder how many people like him are even students.

Many are students and by covering there face
they do not let there Family to shame.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by BOOSH

I worked really hard for uni even if I am doing a Film & Media degree, which someone has already said isn't a "proper" degree, which is absolute bollocks.
I need, like so many others I'm in Uni with, for this not to go ahead.
What is the point of making it much more expensive than it already is.
Ohh so rich people can only get in?
This world has gone to shit.

yep well that's what a right wing system looks like. "user pays". You use it you should pay for it they argue. People agree with it because they have selfish "it's all about me" attitude and don't want to pay for what benefits society as a whole. These uni students won't get much sympathy from the wider community because they envy the fact that uni students managed to do what they never could... worked hard for a decent education. Asking them to pay for it is like rubbing salt in the wound. Truth is everyone benefits.... including and especially those from lower socio-economic background with kids who want to make a go of life instead of doing a crumby factory job and then watch TV all night.