[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

I'm not taking away anything from the fact she was murdered and it's sad for her family and that, but you can see the point i'm making.

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to happen but there are hundreds of murders in the UK every year, most of whom dont get the attention and the publicity that this case is getting

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to happen but there are hundreds of murders in the UK every year, most of whom dont get the attention and the publicity that this case is getting

Okay then. So what do you expect the news to currently concentrate on then? The continuing weather, when the next snow fall is expected? It's news. As it is news when all the other murders are reported on.

And Scrooge..... if they are being fickle as you say in reporting on Joanna - are they also being fickle when it is someone elses child, but a child of a younger age, when they are reporting those types of murder?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Okay then. So what do you expect the news to currently concentrate on then? The continuing weather, when the next snow fall is expected? It's news. As it is news when all the other murders are reported on.

And Scrooge..... if they are being fickle as you say in reporting on Joanna - are they also being fickle when it is someone elses child, but a child of a younger age, when they are reporting those types of murder?

Oh look, a quick google search and what do I find - http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/87588...ar_Chichester/

"Residents in a sleepy village spoke of their shock after a man’s body was found with multiple stab wounds

Detectives were yesterday combing the isolated, rural location looking for clues after the death of a 45-year-old man.

The Romanian nursery worker, who was living and working at the plant nursery, in Second Avenue, Almodington, near Chichester, was stabbed several times late on Christmas Day"

He wont be on the front page of every newspaper in Britain, noone gives a sh*t about him. What makes Joanna Yates murder any more important than this guys?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh look, a quick google search and what do I find - http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/87588...ar_Chichester/

"Residents in a sleepy village spoke of their shock after a man’s body was found with multiple stab wounds

Detectives were yesterday combing the isolated, rural location looking for clues after the death of a 45-year-old man.

The Romanian nursery worker, who was living and working at the plant nursery, in Second Avenue, Almodington, near Chichester, was stabbed several times late on Christmas Day"

He wont be on the front page of every newspaper in Britain, noone gives a sh*t about him. What makes Joanna Yates murder any more important than this guys?

It clearly has escaped your attention that the 'victim' is not the one who is giving themselves the publicity. It's the relatives and those involved who push the publicity..... if this man doesn't have relatives who want to push in the same way as Joanna's relatives (and friends) do.... it's hardly the media's fault.

They will respond to what is being given the biggest push.

Joanna had been reported missing since 17th December - therefore the media push was not for a murder, but on finding her - that was the news story. Unfortunately they have found her. Dead, therefore the news will expand on the original story.

You'll also note that the person 'murdered' in your link, has not yet been officially identified (according to the link you posted). Joanna's body has been identified.

You'll also note that a 53 year old man has been arrested in connection with the murder. Joanna's death is still under investigation.

Lots of differing factors. Lots of differing reasons & circumstances for a national paper not picking up the story.

As for your comments, "Nobody gives a sh!t about him".... maybe you want to go ask his relatives/family why they haven't contacted the press to see if that will help .... oh wait... the police already have someone they suspect as being responsible. Maybe that's a huge big clue - it's nothing to do with no one giving a damn, but more to do with 'WHO' murdered - which is what the police are focusing on at the moment with Joanna's case.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

It clearly has escaped your attention that the 'victim' is not the one who is giving themselves the publicity. It's the relatives and those involved who push the publicity..... if this man doesn't have relatives who want to push in the same way as Joanna's relatives (and friends) do.... it's hardly the media's fault.

They will respond to what is being given the biggest push.

Joanna had been reported missing since 17th December - therefore the media push was not for a murder, but on finding her - that was the news story. Unfortunately they have found her. Dead, therefore the news will expand on the original story.

You'll also note that the person 'murdered' in your link, has not yet been officially identified (according to the link you posted). Joanna's body has been identified.

You'll also note that a 53 year old man has been arrested in connection with the murder. Joanna's death is still under investigation.

Lots of differing factors. Lots of differing reasons & circumstances for a national paper not picking up the story.

As for your comments, "Nobody gives a sh!t about him".... maybe you want to go ask his relatives/family why they haven't contacted the press to see if that will help .... oh wait... the police already have someone they suspect as being responsible. Maybe that's a huge big clue - it's nothing to do with no one giving a damn, but more to do with 'WHO' murdered - which is what the police are focusing on at the moment with Joanna's case.

Yeah, that's true I suppose, I was just trying to make the point that the media will elevate the importance of one particular murder case over another, something I dont like.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah, that's true I suppose, I was just trying to make the point that the media will elevate the importance of one particular murder case over another, something I dont like.

Yep, and people are quick enough to forget about them too.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Okay then. So what do you expect the news to currently concentrate on then? The continuing weather, when the next snow fall is expected? It's news. As it is news when all the other murders are reported on.

And Scrooge..... if they are being fickle as you say in reporting on Joanna - are they also being fickle when it is someone elses child, but a child of a younger age, when they are reporting those types of murder?

Didn't see this. I'm afraid they are the worst with Children, and so are people for getting outraged at one thing, and then next time it happens get outraged to the next one who dies horribly. It's a shame but that is how it works. Look up some of the cases.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by InOne

Didn't see this. I'm afraid they are the worst with Children, and so are people for getting outraged at one thing, and then next time it happens get outraged to the next one who dies horribly. It's a shame but that is how it works. Look up some of the cases.

I don't have to look up any cases. I think they are quite right to go 'heavy at it' when it comes to children. I do - because we know live in a society whereby there are so many sick bastards out there who do the most appalling things to very young and defenceless children: to their own flesh and blood, who torture,maim, and treat in the most goddawful way, causing untold suffering.

I personally prefer to know what sort of sick bastards are out there, what evil they dished out.. why? Because those responsible for it need to feel just a little what it's like to live in complete and utter fear and terror:- and I hope they live a long life suffering and being terrified of who is going to attack them next, who is goign to harm them next.

I'm in the 'eye for an eye' brigade. None of this 'forgiveness' crap for me, thanks very much. Forgiving doesn't bring back a young child's life - or anyone elses for that matter: but I'm homing in on the young child as that's what your aiming at .

That's it. Rant over.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't have to look up any cases. I think they are quite right to go 'heavy at it' when it comes to children. I do - because we know live in a society whereby there are so many sick bastards out there who do the most appalling things to very young and defenceless children: to their own flesh and blood, who torture,maim, and treat in the most goddawful way, causing untold suffering.

I personally prefer to know what sort of sick bastards are out there, what evil they dished out.. why? Because those responsible for it need to feel just a little what it's like to live in complete and utter fear and terror:- and I hope they live a long life suffering and being terrified of who is going to attack them next, who is goign to harm them next.

I'm in the 'eye for an eye' brigage. None of this 'forgiveness' crap for me, thanks very much. Forgiving doesn't bring back a young child's life.

That's it. Rant over.

Not being funny but that is a narrow minded way of thinking. And terrible things have always happened since the dawn of man, you make out stuff like this started happening 50 years ago or something :S

And miss 'eye for an eye' would you want a member of your family dead if they did something like that? You sound quite cold to me.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by InOne

Not being funny but that is a narrow minded way of thinking. And terrible things have always happened since the dawn of man, you make out stuff like this started happening 50 years ago or something :S

And miss 'eye for an eye' would you want a member of your family dead if they did something like that? You sound quite cold to me.

Oh I'm being deadly serious. Absolutely. I'm not cold - I'm simply of the mind that a Life for a Life is fair - call it all things being equal.

Seeing as this country doesn't allow the death penalty: I'll make do with those who do inflict such crimes on others, the fear of waking up every day - terrified of what's going to hit them next. If it was a family member: not good, but it wouldn't change my mind. I wouldn't like it but that's the way it goes: not that it would happen seeing that the Death Penalty is illegal here.

I have no problem with that at all and I sleep very well at night.

Where have I 'made out' that these things have not happened from the dawn of time? I didn't - stop making things up.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh I'm being deadly serious. Absolutely. I'm not cold - I'm simply of the mind that a Life for a Life is fair - call it all things being equal.

Seeing as this country doesn't allow the death penalty: I'll make do with those who do inflict such crimes on others, the fear of waking up every day - terrified of what's going to hit them next. If it was a family member: not good, but it wouldn't change my mind. I wouldn't like it but that's the way it goes: not that it would happen seeing that the Death Penalty is illegal here.

I have no problem with that at all and I sleep very well at night.

Where have I 'made out' that these things have not happened from the dawn of time? I didn't - stop making things up.

You're just one of those typical bull headed type people who don't really think about what they're saying and thinks their opinion is fact. A little nickname for your type is 'foamer'.

Anyway, we're going off topic.

[Artificial Snow]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't have to look up any cases. I think they are quite right to go 'heavy at it' when it comes to children. I do - because we know live in a society whereby there are so many sick bastards out there who do the most appalling things to very young and defenceless children: to their own flesh and blood, who torture,maim, and treat in the most goddawful way, causing untold suffering.

I personally prefer to know what sort of sick bastards are out there, what evil they dished out.. why? Because those responsible for it need to feel just a little what it's like to live in complete and utter fear and terror:- and I hope they live a long life suffering and being terrified of who is going to attack them next, who is goign to harm them next.

I'm in the 'eye for an eye' brigade. None of this 'forgiveness' crap for me, thanks very much. Forgiving doesn't bring back a young child's life - or anyone elses for that matter: but I'm homing in on the young child as that's what your aiming at .

That's it. Rant over.

Hi,

I just joined to say I absolutely despise people like you. Do you by any chance work for or read the Daily Mail? You have the sort of mentality projected by this sensationalist, hateful tabloid. You're so narrow minded it's not funny. Next thing you'll be rallying up all your cronies with pitchforks to persecute all the killer paedophile, rapists and cannabis-induced psychotic people you can find.

You're a disgrace.