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Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zee

Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Say what you wish just avoid the tired cliche of rip.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Say what you wish just avoid the tired cliche of rip.

Are you bored today? What an odd thing to bug you that much.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Zee

Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Very good point. Many people have suffered great pain before they die - years of pain and suffering all of kinds that many of us could not imagine. I agree, it's a respectful wish, and hoping that their suffering (of whatever sort) may now be over.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Very good point. Many people have suffered great pain before they die - years of pain and suffering all of kinds that many of us could not imagine. I agree, it's a respectful wish, and hoping that their suffering (of whatever sort) may now be over.

Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

I dont think any adult really believes that, they may hope it is true or that it is not but no one believes such utter unmitigated pish.

No religion deserves respect because it is based on lies and intolerance.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I dont think any adult really believes that, they may hope it is true or that it is not but no one believes such utter unmitigated pish.

No religion deserves respect because it is based on lies and intolerance.

I would say that some could find that unbelievably insulting, in the extreme.

I don't believe it is any one person's right to mock why someone would believe in an afterlife.

Any adult is allowed their own opinion, their own belief in the matter on how they pay respects to the deceased loved ones, without it being regarded as, 'Utter, unmitigated pish'.

Perhaps I'm more understanding than you? Therein lies a very large difference of opinion between you and I.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

I don't think you are going to get anywhere Pyramid,However,leather trumpet, The voice of reason (Lord help us), is incorrect on many issues in his/her posts,for instance:- Cemeteries are not in Church grounds and many people are buried not for religious ideals but because some people believe that as we have to be formed so there may be a reason for the natural decomposition process too.
Churchyards are the burial areas attached to a Church or in its grounds, Cemeteries are not.

Many non religious people and Atheists are buried in Cemeteries that have no Church or Chapel in them or parts with no consecrated ground either.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think you are going to get anywhere Pyramid,However,leather trumpet, The voice of reason (Lord help us), is incorrect on many issues in his/her posts,for instance:- Cemeteries are not in Church grounds and many people are buried not for religious ideals but because some people believe that as we have to be formed so there may be a reason for the natural decomposition process too.
Churchyards are the burial areas attached to a Church or in its grounds, Cemeteries are not.

Many non religious people and Atheists are buried in Cemeteries that have no Church or Chapel in them or parts with no consecrated ground either.

Yes, you are correct Joey. 100%.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think you are going to get anywhere Pyramid,However,leather trumpet, The voice of reason (Lord help us), is incorrect on many issues in his/her posts,for instance:- Cemeteries are not in Church grounds and many people are buried not for religious ideals but because some people believe that as we have to be formed so there may be a reason for the natural decomposition process too.
Churchyards are the burial areas attached to a Church or in its grounds, Cemeteries are not.

Many non religious people and Atheists are buried in Cemeteries that have no Church or Chapel in them or parts with no consecrated ground either.

The main reason for graveyards is religion. That is the main reason. They are outdated and will, like religion, die out.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The main reason for graveyards is religion. That is the main reason. They are outdated and will, like religion, die out.

That is your view and you are entitled of course to hold it and defend it, even if it is wrong.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The main reason for graveyards is religion. That is the main reason. They are outdated and will, like religion, die out.

Yeah, everyone wants to leave the corpse at home don't they or sitting in their favourite chair. Not that it would be a problem.

If someone such as yourself is not religious it doesn't mean they don't want a proper burial. Whether you believe in afterlife or not, the idea of cremating and burning the corpse of a loved one is horrific. A simple burial is a nicer and more peaceful means.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

Obviously the idea of heaven has completely bypassed you. Do you know what resurrected means?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Obviously the idea of heaven has completely bypassed you. Do you know what resurrected means?

That does not make any sense

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That does not make any sense

You said "resurrected into heaven".

Definition - Resurrection - The act of rising from the dead or returning to life.

Heaven is the afterlife involving the belief in a spirit or soul. Nothing to do with the physical body. Do you understand now?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You said "resurrected into heaven".

Definition - Resurrection - The act of rising from the dead or returning to life.

Heaven is the afterlife involving the belief in a spirit or soul. Nothing to do with the physical body. Do you understand now?

I understand what you mean and I also understand that you do not understand Christianity.

1 Corinthians 15

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Obviously the idea of heaven has completely bypassed you. Do you know what resurrected means?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That does not make any sense

I'd say it makes perfect sense. Do you know what resurrection means? You might not agree with the belief but that doesn't negate the fact that others do.