[Z]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Why is her money not put too good use? Trains are not always late & our state schools are of very high quality for the most part. She's speaking out her ass, and while it's very nice for her that she doesnt use public transport and can afford to have a nice private car, plenty of people do actually have to use it.

I like Adele's music but this has really put me off her, she just comes across as arrogant and greedy if you ask me

Depends where you go. In my experience, schools can be really rough and in need of desperate repairs; transport can be dilapidated and unreliable - on the other hand both can be in really good working order, just depends where you are. I don't see the problem with her moaning about it; she works just like everybody else and it's pretty savage that she has to give half her earnings away in tax - I am aware that money goes into welfare, I study this at uni I was just raising the point that a lot of people do not appreciate having to pay huge levels of tax when they do not see a physical return on their investment in the state. She also says that she doesn't use public transport due to being widely recognised, there's no mention of a nice private car though I'd assume that to be the case - I think you're being a little bit presumptuous about her as a person based on your views on taxation and it's fickle to say you've been put off her music because of these throwaway remarks. It's a fact of life that you have to pay tax, it's just annoying for those who earn lots that they only get to keep half of it, people will complain and nothing will change, it's as simple as that.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Zee

Depends where you go. In my experience, schools can be really rough and in need of desperate repairs; transport can be dilapidated and unreliable - on the other hand both can be in really good working order, just depends where you are. I don't see the problem with her moaning about it; she works just like everybody else and it's pretty savage that she has to give half her earnings away in tax - I am aware that money goes into welfare, I study this at uni I was just raising the point that a lot of people do not appreciate having to pay huge levels of tax when they do not see a physical return on their investment in the state. She also says that she doesn't use public transport due to being widely recognised, there's no mention of a nice private car though I'd assume that to be the case - I think you're being a little bit presumptuous about her as a person based on your views on taxation and it's fickle to say you've been put off her music because of these throwaway remarks. It's a fact of life that you have to pay tax, it's just annoying for those who earn lots that they only get to keep half of it, people will complain and nothing will change, it's as simple as that.

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she pays a damn sight more than most and is entitled to moan about how taxpayers money is spent just like the rest of us.

[Livia]

Adele is a great singer. It's a bit rich to take a swipe at the country because she has to pay tax, though. Once her accountants have worked her bill over she probably pays less, as a percentage, than most people on 25k a year.

If she was a little older and a little wiser, she'd understand that the best way to change the things she's moaning about is investment. That means taxing people. It's simple, really.

I disagree with the people whio think she has a right to moan because she is a taxpayer. She only has a right to moan if she's a voter and didn't use her vote.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Zee

Depends where you go. In my experience, schools can be really rough and in need of desperate repairs; transport can be dilapidated and unreliable - on the other hand both can be in really good working order, just depends where you are. I don't see the problem with her moaning about it; she works just like everybody else and it's pretty savage that she has to give half her earnings away in tax - I am aware that money goes into welfare, I study this at uni I was just raising the point that a lot of people do not appreciate having to pay huge levels of tax when they do not see a physical return on their investment in the state. She also says that she doesn't use public transport due to being widely recognised, there's no mention of a nice private car though I'd assume that to be the case - I think you're being a little bit presumptuous about her as a person based on your views on taxation and it's fickle to say you've been put off her music because of these throwaway remarks. It's a fact of life that you have to pay tax, it's just annoying for those who earn lots that they only get to keep half of it, people will complain and nothing will change, it's as simple as that.

I'm sure some schools are sh*t but the vast majority are not, and the general standard of education provided is a lot higher than in a lot of countries. But it's not even like she was making any constructive criticism, she was just making a baseless generalisation, the same with what she did with the trains. You cant really measure how late the trains are of course but it's really not true that they're always late, although sometimes it is inevitable, not that she would know or care given that she apparently cant use public transport. Just because she doesnt use public transport doesnt mean she shouldnt have to pay any tax towards it. And I have to come back to, does she really think these services will improve without tax revenue?

If this was a banker complaining, or a politician would anyone care? Of course not, they'd condemn them for their greed, it's just because Adele is a successful music artist with a good voice that people defend her. I realise that 50% is a lot to tax but she still keeps £4,000,000 of her earnings, lets have a bit of perspective here, any one whos taxed less would swap positions with her in a heartbeat. And I never said I've been put off her music, I said I've been put off her; she could at least back up her criticism, or worded it in a constructive way but she didnt, she's just come off as arrogant & greedy, looks like she's facing a backlash over it now and rightly so.