[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You are presuming that they take homophobia as seriously as racism. I don't think they do.

I don't think they take misogyny as seriously eigther.

Unfortuinately gays and women don't kick up as much of a fuss as the racial minorities. Don't you know? they are "special"

Ahhh I missed your edit.

My last comment applies even more.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think you're wrong. I think some people take homophobia a lot more seriously than racism. Yourself, for instance. I've just seen you take exception to someone saying something is "gay" on another thread... and yet you made some seriously racist comments to me last week.

I made racist comments to you last week? What race are you? I don't even know what race you are so how could i have made a racist comment towards you?

You are obviously mistaking me for someone else.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think you're wrong. I think some people take homophobia a lot more seriously than racism. Yourself, for instance. I've just seen you take exception to someone saying something is "gay" on another thread... and yet you made some seriously racist comments to me last week.

I think most people will take which ever is closest to the them or which ever one they've actually experienced more seriously which is understandable I suppose

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think most people will take which ever is closest to the them or which ever one they've actually experienced more seriously which is understandable I suppose

I agree.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think most people will take which ever is closest to the them or which ever one they've actually experienced more seriously which is understandable I suppose

Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I made racist comments to you last week? What race are you? I don't even know what race you are so how could i have made a racist comment towards you?

You are obviously mistaking me for someone else.

I'd say go back and look at them, but the mods removed them presumably because they were racist.

[Omah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz1WbiShgex

'I'm on the edge': Paddy Doherty breaks down after Fright Night saying he can't mix with 'country people' as he brands housemates 'morons'

After watching a screening of the film Fright Night Paddy was left fuming at the antics of the troublesome twins Jedward and he stormed into the diary room.

The My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding star screamed as he entered the diary room and told Big Brother explained his confusion.

He said: ‘I’m all *******ed up in the head here.’You don’t understand Big Brother. I don’t know what is wrong. Look at this.’

As he sat with his head in his hands Paddy revealed he felt ‘disgusted’ after seeing the horror film and branded everyone else in the house was a ‘moron’.

He also revealed he was having trouble mixing with ‘country people.’

Paddy ranted: ‘I’m like a fish out of water. I don’t mix with country people.’

‘They are laughing at stupid things. I need my woman to say Paddy you are alright.’

Paddy broke down after he watched a special screening of Fright Night with task winners Jedward, Tara, Bobby, Pamela and John.

The housemates had been tasked with eating garlic dishes and Paddy had eaten his garlic ice cream quicker than Lucien.

After finishing the foul food Paddy was seen holding his head in his hands screaming: ‘Mummy, mummy, mummy.’

Speaking to Big Brother after the task he said: ‘I’m dying. I’m a write off. I need a priest to give me a blessing and I need a doctor to look at my stomach.’

I'm sure he'd feel better if he murdered the twins .....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

I completely disagree.

Abuse breads empathy? i think not. Just look at the studies about domestic violence. In almost every case both perpetrators and victims of domestic violence come from households where they witnessed domestic violence themselves as children.

People who suffered abuse as children are more likely to beat their own kids, and commit violence against their own children.

Almost all pedophiles and child molestors were molested themselves as children.

African Americans in the US are by FAR the most homophobic group in the US, in fact in California it's well documented that the only reason gay marriage did not pass into law was because of the black vote.


Hate breeds hate, it does NOT breed tolerance or empathy. scientifically speaking.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd say go back and look at them, but the mods removed them presumably because they were racist.

Well you claim i said something so "racist" against you, but you can't even remember what it was?

And you don't even tell me what race you are! how am i meant to defend myself against claims of racism if i don't even know which race i'm meant to hate?

You have serious issues, and i don't appreciate being called a racist, that is INCREDIBLY offensive. I've got no more time for you, please stop harassing me.

[joeysteele]

Paddy,is just Paddy, he comes from different way of life altogether, he has tolerated all the others except Sally, who he found interesting and good to talk to.

His outburst yesterday was out of order in part, he went too far and he I think,realised that by going to the diary room to cool down.

As with other housemates he thinks the twins are in fairyland as he does Tara and Pamela too,he simply cannot accept and adjust to dealing with the people in the house and their different ways.

As to wanting to murder the twins, the worst thing he could possibly be able to do was to nominate them for eviction and he did not, so maybe they don't really annoy him as much as it seems and that yesterday he took his frustrations out more on them because they are much younger than most in there and easier targets for him.

He won't get away with such nasty rants in the future but there is only about 1 week to go now and so I am sure Paddy can be forgiven this outburst this once.
If there was still weeks to go though, I could see Paddy walking out, these people as he says are simply not his people.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well you claim i said something so "racist" against you, but you can't even remember what it was?

And you don't even tell me what race you are! how am i meant to defend myself against claims of racism if i don't even know which race i'm meant to hate?

You have serious issues, and i don't appreciate being called a racist, that is INCREDIBLY offensive. I've got no more time for you, please stop harassing me.

You abuse me and can't remember it, and I have issues?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

You would imagine so, yeah, but you also get the "well, they've had it easy compared to me" crowd

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

100% correct again Livia.

[Crimson Dynamo]

is "little woofter" better


either one fits with both

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

But to me its more about intent rather than the words..

Agree 100% with this.

People get so worked up over a word, when the word itself isnt really the problem.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Wasn't Emily just singing a song with Charley & Nikki or something.. and they all said it. It was a bit stupid how she got chucked out

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Wasn't Emily just singing a song with Charley & Nikki or something.. and they all said it. It was a bit stupid how she got chucked out

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