[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

There is a massive difference between a "unstable and violent temper" and anger developing into a need to vent that anger on a soft target.

I am absolutely gobsmacked and i can't help but think there is more to every ones attitude other than tonight's action.

1. Jay and the Freezer
2. Jay Crude with Women
3. Jay pitted against Harry and Arron yesterday

All this must be massively colouring your opinion on this.

No Crom, none of that is it. You know what is though? The real thing that is?

The genuine look of fear on other HMs faces and the obvious scared atmosphere in the house when Jay was in the garden violently venting.

Like I say, no one in there signed up to be in that situation. Jay should go.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No Crom, none of that is it. You know what is though? The real thing that is?

The genuine look of fear on other HMs faces and the obvious scared atmosphere in the house when Jay was in the garden violently venting.

Like I say, no one in there signed up to be in that situation. Jay should go.

There was a somber mood in the house and Louise said she felt she should "look after him" nobody said they felt in fear of there safety. You are implying you can read there body language and sense fear over Somber.

Maybe Harry was scared for his safety, but your escalating that to all the Hm's.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

There was a somber mood in the house and Louise said she felt she should "look after him" nobody said they felt in fear of there safety. You are implying you can read there body language and sense fear over Somber.

Maybe Harry was scared for his safety, but your escalating that to all the Hm's.

I am implying nothing, I am clearly saying that the atmosphere (even the little shown) was terse and nervous, the HMs obviously intimidated during the exchnage when they were looking out the window. I am saying that the look on Faye's face spoke volumes. I am saying yes I can read body language and situations pretty well.

Watch it online tommorow again and keep an eye out for what I am saying.


but look... even you admit that Harry was probably scared of Jay during that, and you know what? That alone is unnacceptable.

No HM should ever feel afraid or intimidated in there. Ever.