[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well that was just Jay's method of dealing with it and taking out his frustration, I really can't see the problem with what he did, not like he used Harry as a punch bag

And that's the problem. If someone has to take their anger out physically they shouldn't be in a BB enviroment.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Punching a pillow is not harming housemates, that's obviously his strategy to vent anger. Jay didn't hit Harry, he may have wanted to, but the fact, despite his rage, he hit a pillow instead shows that he has some control over his anger.

Had BB provided alcohol earlier than they did would this still have been the case?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

And that's the problem. If someone has to take their anger out physically they shouldn't be in a BB enviroment.

You need to learn the difference between taking it out physically on an inanimate object and a person; two very separate things.

[Locke.]

Harry will knock him out anyway

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Basically though they have shown us all the things you listed except the one that nobody knows if it happened and if it did do you really think they held it back for any other reason than it wasnt broadcastable?
Common sense tells us that there will be things happening every single day by every housemate that is not fit for tv yet you have a bee in your bonnet about something that might not exist but seems to get embellished every time somebody repeats it.

Mark being pissed on by Jay was only shown on BBBOTS which doesnt even get 1 million viewers,neither was the stealing of Aarons booze shown on the highlights either.

And if Heaven,Rebeckah and Mark (kind of) have said that Jay shat in the freezer,then he shat in the freezer simple as.

[Chuck]

This clearly isn't a fair thread.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Had BB provided alcohol earlier than they did would this still have been the case?

That we'll never know, but you can't chuck him out for speculating what may happen, that's ridiculous.

[spitfire]

He is a dick but should only be removed once he is up.

[Supernovarolla]

True, Jay sh*tting in the freezer is disgusting if it's true, but what else has he done that warrants his removal from the house? There has been no evidence of him being violent to anyone and all the housemates that have left the house so far have expressed that they like him, including Mark.

He may have lost his rag over Harry's prank, but he calmed down and saw the funny side of it in the end; and to be fair, Harry was the first out of the two of them to lose his temper in the house. Even when Aaron and Harry were deliberately trying to sabotage the task, Jay found it funny and was laughing at Aaron's quips in the office.

I'm with a lot of others who find this forum's bizarre hatred of a housemate, based on Chinese whispers circulated by posters on here without a shred of evidence, more than a tad odd. What's a matter? Are the male posters on here all 'jelus' [sic]? Which is only what they would accuse the females of being if they did this to one of the female housemates.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

And that's the problem. If someone has to take their anger out physically they shouldn't be in a BB enviroment.

I think it's a credit to him that even in a BB environment he refrains from directing anger at other housemates, outside of the house it's hardly an unusual method of taking out frustration and lot's of people use a punch bag, Jay hasn't been able to do any of his normal work out/fitness routine which is obviously pretty important to him but he's still managed to keep a level head

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Punching a pillow is not harming housemates, that's obviously his strategy to vent anger. Jay didn't hit Harry, he may have wanted to, but the fact, despite his rage, he hit a pillow instead shows that he has some control over his anger.

I know you're far from a Jay fan but well said, I agree

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by spitfire

He is a dick but should only be removed once he is up.

An Aaron and Jay head to head eviction next week with Jay leaving. Wonderful.

[Chuck]

I don't remember anyone saying that Nikki or Shabby should be removed from the house for punching pillows, but it's Jay right, he's big and threatening... punching a pillow is punching a pillow, it doesn't matter who did it.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

You need to learn the difference between taking it out physically on an inanimate object and a person; two very separate things.

I don't need to learn anything. He shouldn't be in BB if he has to take any anger out physically whether it be directed at a person or object.

One of the rules in BB is against aggressive behaviour which is exactly what it was.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

the guy literally NEEDS protein and now he won't have that for a week, he had every right to go mental.

They have unlimited access to chick peas and lentils which are both excellent sources of protein.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I don't remember anyone saying that Nikki or Shabby should be removed from the house for punching pillows, but it's Jay right, he's big and threatening... punching a pillow is punching a pillow, it doesn't matter who did it.

Nikki admitted herself she was too unstable for the house and only got in through lying in the psychiatry test.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Supernovarolla

True, Jay sh*tting in the freezer is disgusting if it's true, but what else has he done that warrants his removal from the house? There has been no evidence of him being violent to anyone and all the housemates that have left the house so far have expressed that they like him, including Mark.

He may have lost his rag over Harry's prank, but he calmed down and found the funny side to it in the end; and to be fair, Harry was the first out of the two of them to lose his temper in the house.

I'm with a lot of others who find this forum's bizarre hatred of a housemate, based on chinese whispers circulated by poster's on here without a shred of evidence, more than a tad odd. What's a matter? Are the male posters on here all 'jelus' [sic] or something Which is only what they would accuse the females of being if they did this to one of the female housemates.

1. Pissing on Mark.

2. threatening to kick Harrys head in,in the dairy room as that is violent behaviour.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I don't remember anyone saying that Nikki or Shabby should be removed from the house for punching pillows, but it's Jay right, he's big and threatening... punching a pillow is punching a pillow, it doesn't matter who did it.

Yeah like when Shabby was in the nest chucking stuff around, that's taking out your anger physically, why wasnt she kicked out?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I don't need to learn anything. He shouldn't be in BB if he has to take any anger out physically whether it be directed at a person or object.

One of the rules in BB is against aggressive behaviour which is exactly what it was.

Oh, give over. If it was a punchbag he had hit, nobody would bat an eyelid, but he doesn't have access to a punchbag so hit a pillow. If he had hit a housemate then I would agree to chuck him out, but removing him on the assumption that he may hit somebody because he hit a pillow is the most ridiculous thing I'er ever heard.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I don't need to learn anything. He shouldn't be in BB if he has to take any anger out physically whether it be directed at a person or object.

One of the rules in BB is against aggressive behaviour which is exactly what it was.

You sound like Vinnie mocking Alex for punching the snowman.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah like when Shabby was in the nest chucking stuff around, that's taking out your anger physically, why wasnt she kicked out?

And when Sissy kicked the furniture over and when Ahmed smashed plates.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

And when Sissy kicked the furniture over and when Ahmed smashed plates.

Exactly. But as I said, this isn't a fair thread.

[Sophiee]

as much as I dislike him, he shouldn't be removed for doing what he did.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Oh, give over. If it was a punchbag he had hit, nobody would bat an eyelid, but he doesn't have access to a punchbag so hit a pillow. If he had hit a housemate then I would agree to chuck him out, but removing him on the assumption that he may hit somebody because he hit a pillow is the most ridiculous thing I'er ever heard.

Okay let him be removed him on the FACT he's a vile **** who ****s in freezers as that was also part of the reason I gave in the OP.

[billy123]

Im no fan of jay but i find this thread and a few others utterly ridiculous you can see some of the stupid accusations being added to as time goes on it is laughable now everything is getting the words "multiple times" added to it.
as i said im not a fan of jay but some of the things been said about him are outright lies and we all know the reason for the majority of it doesnt really stem from true disgust its people trying to make him look bad to defend gimpy Aaron.

Which is a shame because some of his behaviour is going to get swept under the carpet now because all people can see is a few people with an agenga being silly.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

Bill made a very good point. Jay is your least favourite housemate and you're trying to tell people that he should be removed for something he didn't do, that's favouritism.

What didn't he do?