[bbfan1991]

So sad. RIP to the guy and condolences to his family, death affects people in different ways.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Compare this to Muslim fathers who would KILL their own son for being gay. (this is a reality)

Now THAT would be selfish, killing your own son because you're EMBARASSED of your own son in the arab world. This is a very common happening in the Muslim world.

Stark contrast isn't it?

That's just outright murder. Slightly off topic their lostalex.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Think of this situation.

A child killer gets life in prison for murdering a 6yr old. He kills himself. What would your view be on that?

Yeah because the two situations are so comparable

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah because the two situations are so comparable

It is when you consider the loved ones of the child. Suicide is suicide whatever way you want to look at it. The easy way out.

[Kizzy]

Well, all these hypotheticals and we will never have one clue as to his state of mind.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Glenn

It is when you consider the loved ones of the child. Suicide is suicide whatever way you want to look at it. The easy way out.

How can suicide be the easy way out if it leaves loads of relatives devastated?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

It is when you consider the loved ones of the child. Suicide is suicide whatever way you want to look at it. The easy way out.

So this man is the same as a child killer now. Give me a ****ing break Glenn

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

How can suicide be the easy way out if it leaves loads of relatives devastated?

Which is the point I'm trying to make.

If you loved your relatives and your friends why on earth would you want to do that to them. To cause them that much pain. OK the bloke lost his son. Fair enough. I don't know what that feels like but I only have to look at my Nan to glimpse what its like to lose a child. Especially at the age of eleven. To put your child to bed for them not to wake up again is devastating.

My Nan said she wanted to die to be with her son again, but the the thought of putting the entire family through that pain and suffering squashed that idea.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Which is the point I'm trying to make.

If you loved your relatives and your friends why on earth would you want to do that to them. To cause them that much pain. OK the bloke lost his son. Fair enough. I don't know what that feels like but I only have to look at my Nan to glimpse what its like to lose a child. Especially at the age of eleven. To put your child to bed for them not to wake up again is devastating.

My Nan said she wanted to die to be with her son again, but the the thought of putting the entire family through that pain and suffering squashed that idea.

So your nan is a stronger person than this man. Doesn't make this man selfish or coward. Everyone is different Glenn and for you to just lump him in the same box as a child killer because he's not as strong as your nan is disgusting and naive imo

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Which is the point I'm trying to make.

If you loved your relatives and your friends why on earth would you want to do that to them. To cause them that much pain. OK the bloke lost his son. Fair enough. I don't know what that feels like but I only have to look at my Nan to glimpse what its like to lose a child. Especially at the age of eleven. To put your child to bed for them not to wake up again is devastating.

My Nan said she wanted to die to be with her son again, but the the thought of putting the entire family through that pain and suffering squashed that idea.

What you're saying doesn't back up your point. Your Nan didn't want to put people through pain and suffering, so she stayed alive. That was the easy option, the more difficult choice for her would have been suicide.

Anyway I think that for some people life is unbearable. Although they might look fine and healthy, it's more like they're a person on life support with little quality of life. They would like to die on their terms and end the suffering.

It's just that mental illness is not given the same status as physical illness in our society.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So your nan is a stronger person than this man. Doesn't make this man selfish or coward. Everyone is different Glenn and for you to just lump him in the same box as a child killer because he's not as strong as your nan is disgusting and naive imo

Like I said earlier, suicide is suicide. Whatever way you want to look at it. You can't say otherwise because you know I'm right.

If Ian Huntley killed himself you would think it was the coward's way out, would you not?

[Kizzy]

You could then say 'why does insanity exist' ...non compus mentus...out of your mind . I can fully comprehend why such an experience could trigger a reaction like that. And not feel i had to attatch any rational argument to it.

[Niall]

Poor guy. Thats terrible. I feel so sorry for his family too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Like I said earlier, suicide is suicide. Whatever way you want to look at it. You can't say otherwise because you know I'm right.

If Ian Huntley killed himself you would think it was the coward's way out, would you not?

Don't tell me what I know tyvm. I really need to stop talking to you about this because you're making me really angry.

[Glenn.]

So I am right then

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Like I said earlier, suicide is suicide. Whatever way you want to look at it. You can't say otherwise because you know I'm right.

If Ian Huntley killed himself you would think it was the coward's way out, would you not?

Don't be so ridiculous. This man obviously took his own life because he couldn't cope with the overwhelming sadness he was feeling. Thats completely different to the suicide of a child killer.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Glenn

So I am right then

No Glenn you're very ****ing wrong.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Glenn

So I am right then

No Glenn, your point is soo ridiculous that it's making her angry, being right is something different.

[Kizzy]

Well if that is your opinion tou are welcome to it. To post silly rolling eyes to goad a reaction from those who do not share your view and are becoming upset is not acceptable.

[Jake.]

This thread has made me far too angry... poor bloke. And suicide is the easier way out? You have no idea how long he may have been contemplating it... perhaps the desicion to kill himself was a harder choice to make. Bloody ignorance and rudeness of some people on here.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Don't be so ridiculous. This man obviously took his own life because he couldn't cope with the overwhelming sadness he was feeling. Thats completely different to the suicide of a child killer.

And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.

Originally Posted by kizzy

Well if that is your opinion tou are welcome to it. To post silly rolling eyes to goad a reaction from those who do not share your view and are becoming upset is not acceptable.

Yeah.

[Kizzy]

yeah.

[Jordan.]

I feel bad for the suffering he went through but not for him leaving his poor wife to grieve another loss.

[Glenn.]

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Glenn

And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.

He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.