[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

I don't even know what to say, it is just so ridiculous I cannot fathom it.

Yeah, I think I need to stop reading this thread tbh, I hate that It's making me feel this angry.

[Ammi]

Imo the father and mother wouldn't be going through the same thing...that's the thing about grief..it's personal..it can't be shared..and everyone's grief is their own..only theirs. They would both grieve for the same reason but it wouldn't be the same grief...and neither of them may have been able to help the other..the death of a child isn't something that a couple can 'share'...like the birth of a child.

..his 15 year old son committed suicide too..it's interesting that only the father is being discussed

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Imo the father and mother wouldn't be going through the same thing...that's the thing about grief..it's personal..it can't be shared..and everyone's grief is their own..only theirs. They would both grieve for the same reason but it wouldn't be the same grief...and neither of them may have been able to help the other..the death of a child isn't something that a couple can 'share'...like the birth of a child.

..his 15 year old son committed suicide too..it's interesting that only the father is being discussed

You are absolutely right Ammi. There is that element of guilt involved also - he probably felt he had failed his child, and I can't imagine how awful that must be. It's something you can't even begin to empathise with unless you have children yourself. If, god forbid, one of my kids, to whom I gave life, deliberately ended it, I would be in such pain and self loathing about my failure as a parent, that I can't even begin to explain how desperate and heart broken I would be.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, I think I need to stop reading this thread tbh, I hate that It's making me feel this angry.

now you know why i got out so early. :P


this is the kinda sheet that gets me banned every time.

Say your peace, every word, and then don't look back. That's what i do.

some topics with some people you know you cannot argue with. It sounds horrible but it's true, some people are literally just dumb. Some topics are obviously witch hunts, some topics are obviously genocide. You have to recognize them right away. Just post a big old lecture and get the F OUT. it's the only way.