[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Cynical

I think both Ashleigh and Lauren have a lot of growing up to do. I find both extremely annoying.

True Cynical, but I think Lauren has an excuse a bit because she has probably not just with that gang, but probably all her life been treated like s**T because she is good.I';m not saying all good people are but often they are.I'd like to see her stand up for herself a bit more (which she has done a little bit recently) and maybe some of her friends stand up for her more too.But it's no wonder she's a wreck.Because she probably has had to face that sort of corruption her whole life.

Ashleigh's stock for me rises a little for standing up for Deanna and admitting she had a go at Lauren because she was good,

But IMHO having a go at someone for being good, because a lot of bad people on the outside make good people's (sometimes whole life's hell) is one of the worst things apart from any form of killing you can do.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

True Cynical, but I think Lauren has an excuse a bit because she has probably not just with that gang, but probably all her life been treated like s**T because she is good.I';m not saying all good people are but often they are.I'd like to see her stand up for herself a bit more (which she has done a little bit recently) and maybe some of her friends stand up for her more too.But it's no wonder she's a wreck.Because she probably has had to face that sort of corruption her whole life.

Ashleigh's stock for me rises a little for standing up for Deanna and admitting she had a go at Lauren because she was good,

But IMHO having a go at someone for being good, because a lot of bad people on the outside make good people's (sometimes whole life's hell) is one of the worst things apart from any form of killing you can do.

with respect, I'm not sure what is so 'good' about Lauren, dopey might be a better word. She put her membership of the 'team' in front of her own sister who had travelled all the way from Jersey to come and see her.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

with respect, I'm not sure what is so 'good' about Lauren, dopey might be a better word. She put her membership of the 'team' in front of her own sister who had travelled all the way from Jersey to come and see her.

I think she is a really good person. I think I can tell by her lo0ok and the way she sounds really caring when she talks to some.I think I can feel it coming out of her.The girl has a really good and warm heart.

Yes she has voted wrongly and done the wrong things sometimes, but that's largely I think because she is a wreck emotionally inside, as most people are who are treated like that when they've done nothing wrong, and doesn't know who to trust or who is genuine and could be a true friend to her because of it.