[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That's not true at all, i follow him on Twitter. He's a bit part presenter. As you say, Even Alice has a bigger role than Jamie.

Looks like posters are trying to exaggerate Jamie's role to try and justify his comments about the vote.

If as you say Emma knows the numbers, then you can't ignore her when she said Deana's very popular, can you?

Sorry to disagree again, however I have never seen Emma, Alice or even Brian the main presenter being given the responsibility of choosing from originally rejected candidates, three of his own choosing and then presenting them to the public for them to decide which of them becomes a housemate like Jamie East was given to do this series,re-Becky.

If you really think he has little influence then I fear you may be way out possibly.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry to disagree again, however I have never seen Emma, Alice or even Brian the main presenter being given the responsibility of choosing from originally rejected candidates, three of his own choosing and then presenting them to the public for them to decide which of them becomes a housemate like Jamie East was given to do this series,re-Becky.

If you really think he has little influence then I fear you may be way out possibly.

Joey, dont waste your energy, he will keep coming back at you with Cherry picked stuff and if the fails he will pull you up on grammar and spelling, he feeds off good posters and tries to make them look small. he seems to be active outside school hours, weird eh. I like your posts and agree with you on the Jamie issue. He is doing less and less on Holy moly and more on \bb these days.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry to disagree again, however I have never seen Emma, Alice or even Brian the main presenter being given the responsibility of choosing from originally rejected candidates, three of his own choosing and then presenting them to the public for them to decide which of them becomes a housemate like Jamie East was given to do this series,re-Becky.

If you really think he has little influence then I fear you may be way out possibly.

You think picking a wildcard means he has influence over the show and all sorts of insider knowledge but one of the two main presenters knows nothing?

If you think he has this massive influence then you may be way out possibly.

Jamie spends more time on HolyMoly than he does on BB. Like i said, he's a bit part player.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Joey, dont waste your energy, he will keep coming back at you with Cherry picked stuff and if the fails he will pull you up on grammar and spelling, he feeds off good posters and tries to make them look small. he seems to be active outside school hours, weird eh. I like your posts and agree with you on the Jamie issue. He is doing less and less on Holy moly and more on \bb these days.

This is getting quite tiresome now, can you please just talk about the housemates instead of focusing on other members and any personal conflicts you might have with them

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Joey, dont waste your energy, he will keep coming back at you with Cherry picked stuff and if the fails he will pull you up on grammar and spelling, he feeds off good posters and tries to make them look small. he seems to be active outside school hours, weird eh. I like your posts and agree with you on the Jamie issue. He is doing less and less on Holy moly and more on \bb these days.

There you go again, getting personal.

You're really sh!t at this debating lark aren't you.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MrWong

You think picking a wildcard means he has influence over the show and all sorts of insider knowledge but one of the two main presenters knows nothing?

If you think he has this massive influence then you may be way out possibly.

Jamie spends more time on HolyMoly than he does on BB. Like i said, he's a bit part player.

With respect and really none of us know why he said it but he did and wasn't challenged on it either,however you tried to point ut that he is just a presenter,well no other presenter,even Brian who has been in the house twice got to be given that reponsiblity so clearly he does have influence,more than the presenters anyway to actually get to choose a housemate for the series from a list of 3,'only' he put forward.

As someone said,this is all tiresome now anyway, this was to choose who we'd vote for, I said Conor over Deana, I would vote Deana over some other housemates.
I can see that maybe the win in the 4 way battle was probably not as clear and as big as her supporters would likely want it to be and my only point was that someone connected to the show in many ways, raised that very point.

I am using Jamie's words because that is a fact I can base my own assumptions on,I said what I mentioned was guess work from that, I have only used maybe's and possibly's to describe my further elaborations of what I have said.
You however seem to be so sure you are right that you can dismiss others ideas and thoughts anyway so it is pointless to discuss it further if you really cannot even acknowledge others may just be right in some things and have a fair base to their points too.

[JamesBond]

Conor is an absolute mushroom tip, how did he manage to get 14 votes?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

With respect and really none of us know why he said it but he did and wasn't challenged on it either,however you tried to point ut that he is just a presenter,well no other presenter,even Brian who has been in the house twice got to be given that reponsiblity so clearly he does have influence,more than the presenters anyway to actually get to choose a housemate for the series from a list of 3,'only' he put forward.

As someone said,this is all tiresome now anyway, this was to choose who we'd vote for, I said Conor over Deana, I would vote Deana over some other housemates.
I can see that maybe the win in the 4 way battle was probably not as clear and as big as her supporters would likely want it to be and my only point was that someone connected to the show in many ways, raised that very point.

I am using Jamie's words because that is a fact I can base my own assumptions on,I said what I mentioned was guess work from that, I have only used maybe's and possibly's to describe my further elaborations of what I have said.
You however seem to be so sure you are right that you can dismiss others ideas and thoughts anyway so it is pointless to discuss it further if you really cannot even acknowledge others may just be right in some things and have a fair base to their points too.

Well of course they haven't.
Jamie's the one that does the auditions. Brian/Emma/Alice aren't involved in that at all.

That still doesn't mean only he has insider knowledge of the voting.

You are putting considerable weight behind the fact that he was involved (more than usual) in auditions, concluding that he's privvy to things others aren't, based on very little.

All we have to go on is the outcome of the vote. Jamie's utterings can't be taken as gospel or proof of anything.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Well of course they haven't.
Jamie's the one that does the auditions. Brian/Emma/Alice aren't involved in that at all.

That still doesn't mean only he has insider knowledge of the voting.

You are putting considerable weight behind the fact that he was involved (more than usual) in auditions, concluding that he's privvy to things others aren't, based on very little.

All we have to go on is the outcome of the vote. Jamie's utterings can't be taken as gospel or proof of anything.

Indeed, you are possibly right.
I know what I think though.What I 'think' but don't 'know' for sure,unlike yourself who believes himself to be totally right.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Indeed, you are possibly right.
I know what I think though.What I 'think' but don't 'know' for sure,unlike yourself who believes himself to be totally right.

:bana :d ance2: na:

[Kizzy]

100% deana

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Indeed, you are possibly right.
I know what I think though.What I 'think' but don't 'know' for sure,unlike yourself who believes himself to be totally right.

So how does it prove he has insider knowledge, in your opinion?

What you've said so far isn't convincing.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

:bana :d ance2: na:

Careful. At your age you're likely to put your back out.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Careful. At your age you're likely to put your back out.

I am fitter than a bag of flees on a new born puppy. I play 4 games of golf a week, play squash and raquet ball and even at 60 mu wife says I am a pest in the bedroom ,lol. I am an avid hill walker and camper and will partake in the great nothern run later this year. Oh I forgot to mention that pro golfers backs are generally very strong, mine is even stronger on here carrying everyone on my quest to keep conor in.If he goes the series will revert back to a BB4 and we get another R Rice winner, please dont let that happen. Now ive left some bits you can moan about so cherry pick away son.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I am fitter than a bag of flees on a new born puppy. I play 4 games of golf a week, play squash and raquet ball and even at 60 mu wife says I am a pest in the bedroom ,lol. I am an avid hill walker and camper and will partake in the great nothern run later this year. Oh I forgot to mention that pro golfers backs are generally very strong, mine is even stronger on here carrying everyone on my quest to keep conor in.If he goes the series will revert back to a BB4 and we get another R Rice winner, please dont let that happen. Now ive left some bits you can moan about so cherry pick away son.

TMI!!!


It's nice that you have hobbies

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So how does it prove he has insider knowledge, in your opinion?

What you've said so far isn't convincing.

Well, looking at it both ways and moreso since I use the terms possibly,likely and maybe to describe what my thoughts are on the issue. equally so the bulk of what you have said so far,claiming it to be you and it right and everyone else wrong,is also very far from being convincing.

One minute you describe Jamie East as a part time presenter,nothing important, then you state he is involved with the auditions and also the selection of housemates process as well as the presenting role too.
That strikes me as having far more influence than Emma, Alice or Brian and goes a massive lot further than being a part time presenter only.

I don't claim, and never have, claimed he had insider knowledge but I do have the thought it is likely if anyone has, then he will be one who likely has,note,I again use the word likely not certainty.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Because he has so much more involvement with BB overall, he even got to select 3 originally rejected housemates to put to the public to vote on to go in after Victoria's eviction.
He has more input overall, Emma is just a presenter, even Brian doesn't get to know the percentage breakdowns it would seem and he is the main presenter.

My question is and I take nothing away from Deana and her winning that 4 way eviction but why would Jamie say, she is not as popular with the public as people and the housemates believe,just after winning that 4 way eviction.
Had she really run away with the votes, no one could have even hinted she may not be as popular as people think.

Jamie East gets on my nerves but sadly he has a lot more to do with BB than many realise in my view.
He also had a big interest in that 4 way battle too, his 'housemate' Becky was up for eviction too.

He may be have alot to do but Emma knows the results as well, she hosts the show and Im sure she knows the numbers just as well. This is where your theory fails as Emma is privvy to the same information as Jamie, if not more.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Yayita

He may be have alot to do but Emma knows the results as well, she hosts the show and Im sure she knows the numbers just as well. This is where your theory fails as Emma is privvy to the same information as Jamie, if not more.

Possibly she does and possibly that is why in fact she asked Jamie East that question for him to take the stage and elaborate further.
I know one thing for sure, 'if' she,Emma, knew the voting figures and then as to Jamie East response as to Deana is not as popular as people and the housemates think she is, 'if' she indeed knew they were better figures for Deana, why did she not challenge him on it. She didn't say a word after he said that,just totally accepted it.

My theory just could be possibly right you know, Deana fans don't have the monopoly on being right all the time.

Nowhere, anywhere, either have I seen that Emma is privy to the same information as jamie or that she is not even, you state like Mr Wong a clear view that she is, where is your knowledge of that. Could your theory as to her 'definately' having the same information as Jamie East be a bit wrong or again are you right and everyone else wrong on all things Deana and BB if they seem to be getting at her.Which I am not by the way.I only quoted Jamie East.

For the life of me, I cannot see where after winning a 4 way battle for survival after 2 weeks in a row up too, where any comment could have any likely justification as to ''she isn't as popular as people and the housemates think she is'' could be even just thought of, let alone said without any challenge at all, without some other knowledge of that being the likely case.

[Saph]

117 to 16

[Scream]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm not so sure he would get slaughtered.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well, looking at it both ways and moreso since I use the terms possibly,likely and maybe to describe what my thoughts are on the issue. equally so the bulk of what you have said so far,claiming it to be you and it right and everyone else wrong,is also very far from being convincing.
One minute you describe Jamie East as a part time presenter,nothing important, then you state he is involved with the auditions and also the selection of housemates process as well as the presenting role too.
That strikes me as having far more influence than Emma, Alice or Brian and goes a massive lot further than being a part time presenter only.

I don't claim, and never have, claimed he had insider knowledge but I do have the thought it is likely if anyone has, then he will be one who likely has,note,I again use the word likely not certainty.

That's not what i've done. You are basing your theory of the percieved popularity of Deana on what Jamie spouted. I'm basing it on her winning the vote as that's the only concrete thing we have to go on.

Being invoved in auditions isn't important. Where did i say that it was? It's you that states that due to this massive role he plays he's likely to have insider knowledge of the vote.

If it's likely that Jamie knows sh!t then it's just as likely that Emma does too and she was of the view that Deana's popular. So who's correct?

[ransom]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

117 to 16

There is people on here who actually believe Conor stands a chance against Deana in an eviction too. Mad stuff.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by ransom

There is people on here who actually believe Conor stands a chance against Deana in an eviction too. Mad stuff.

Its a racing certainty that she will go before him. This week they are both safe and Conor is racking up the brownie points at the same rate the Killer queen is loosing them. By next week she is toast if they go head to head. At the moment it would be close.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Its a racing certainty that she will go before him. This week they are both safe and Conor is racking up the brownie points at the same rate the Killer queen is loosing them. By next week she is toast if they go head to head. At the moment it would be close.

[ransom]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Its a racing certainty that she will go before him. This week they are both safe and Conor is racking up the brownie points at the same rate the Killer queen is loosing them. By next week she is toast if they go head to head. At the moment it would be close.

Senile