[Blue Cadillac]

I don't recall Luke A whining about his transition at every opportunity. I must be watching a different programme.

[rayheartbliss]

Originally Posted by Herself

I am tired of this "all that he has been through" None of us know what the HMs have been through in their lives. For all we know some could have experienced terrible traumas that they don't wish to harp on about in order to win public sympathy.

Going through the transition from female to male is not the worst thing in the world that can happen to a person, I know many people personally who have gone through much worse and don't whine on about it at every given opportunity.

hmm.....so we should tolerate what he went through because you think its not the worst that can happen to a person? is there a measure of what kind of prejudice is worst?
and how can you say certain things is not as bad as going through another thing, for luke A its probably the worst thing, because its part of who he is and will carry it forever.

[Herself]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

I don't recall Luke A whining about his transition at every opportunity. I must be watching a different programme.

No, you just weren't concentrating. Every time he gurns about "acceptance" and "not fitting in" and not "being popular" and paints the House like an infant in terms of "goodies" and "baddies" he is playing upon public sympathy and he knows it. Fair Play to him He does it very well. A boring Pete Bennett.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

When people accuse Luke A of being bitchy it makes me laugh. They've all bitched - every single one of them. I like Luke A. For all he's been through, he is one of the most grounded, well-mannered, clear-thinking housemates in there.

sadly all of these make him boreing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Herself

I am tired of this "all that he has been through" None of us know what the HMs have been through in their lives. For all we know some could have experienced terrible traumas that they don't wish to harp on about in order to win public sympathy.

Going through the transition from female to male is not the worst thing in the world that can happen to a person, I know many people personally who have gone through much worse and don't whine on about it at every given opportunity.

I'm sure you're not alone in "personally knowing people" who have been through stuff. I'm sure everyone on this forum has both been through traumas of some kind and know people who have. However, just because you don't like Luke A, it doesn't give you leave to trivialise his past because you know someone who may have been through something bad. Furthermore, I have never once heard Luke A use his past as an excuse for anything, and I most certainly have never heard him "whine" about it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

sadly all of these make him boreing.

I don't find him boring. I find him quietly amusing.

[optimisticcynic]

"Boring" on this forum seems to mean lacking a personality disorder/ being level headed/ not trying to seek attention all the time/ having some form of self-respect/ having integrity. I'm all for "boring" housemates in this sense, as I dread the concept with reenforcing bellend behaviour with 50k and the adulation of the public. I note the opener of this thread loves Caroline and likes Scott. Hmmmmm.......

[Blue Cadillac]

Maybe he just lacks self confidence, and seeks approval? I don't know that that's the same as 'whining about his transition at every given opportunity'. Personally, I'd much rather spend time with a grounded, well-mannered, clear-thinking person than have to endure the likes of unintelligible species such as Caroline, Becky or Ashleigh, who have to scream, shout abuse, swear and offer repetitive and pointless arguments to make a simple point.

[Musspuss]

luke a

[rayheartbliss]

Originally Posted by Herself

No, you just weren't concentrating. Every time he gurns about "acceptance" and "not fitting in" and not "being popular" and paints the House like an infant in terms of "goodies" and "baddies" he is playing upon public sympathy and he knows it. Fair Play to him He does it very well. A boring Pete Bennett.

i think you mean pete burns not bennett (i use to mix up their name too)
and that pete burns guy is not a transgender

on topic....you're comment has no substance

[rayheartbliss]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm sure you're not alone in "personally knowing people" who have been through stuff. I'm sure everyone on this forum has both been through traumas of some kind and know people who have. However, just because you don't like Luke A, it doesn't give you leave to trivialise his past because you know someone who may have been through something bad. Furthermore, I have never once heard Luke A use his past as an excuse for anything, and I most certainly have never heard him "whine" about it.

was gonna say this

[Herself]

Originally Posted by rayheartbliss

i think you mean pete burns not bennett (i use to mix up their name too)
and that pete burns guy is not a transgender

on topic....you're comment has no substance

Is there something wrong with your head? I bought Pete Burns music in the 80's ffs I am well aware he is a man. Pete Bennett played on public sympathy and was voted for because of his Tourettes. How the hell could you think I'd compare Luke A to that monster Burns??? Much as I think Liuke is a jealous, moaning little bore he is a decent person with more good points than bad.

I think you should not assume that anyone would be so ignorant to confuse a F2M TG person with a man who likes to dress in women's clothes.

[rayheartbliss]

Originally Posted by Herself

Is there something wrong with your head? I bought Pete Burns music in the 80's ffs I am well aware he is a man. Pete Bennett played on public sympathy and was voted for because of his Tourettes. How the hell could you think I'd compare Luke A to that monster Burns??? Much as I think Liuke is a jealous, moaning little bore he is a decent person with more good points than bad.

I think you should not assume that anyone would be so ignorant to confuse a F2M TG person with a man who likes to dress in women's clothes.

yeah well you didn't exactly say why you compared bennett to luke A