[the truth]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

I am not disputing whether she was a good winner, she was lovely and I have no big issues with her win at all. However, she was not strong but quite weak. She ALWAYS went to PJ, Spencer and Johnny for protection against Alex and Jade. And only began to stick up for her self when Spencer and PJ left and Johnny stopped helping her so overtly as he began to think about winning, needed a strong cheeky chappy persona after rows with Sandy and Alex and didn't want to get into more fights so stopped defending her.

oh what complete and utter rubbish



kate lasted the 3 months , stood up to jade and others behaving like idiots, got drunk, danced, laughed, got involved in every task, spoke her mind , she was a multi faceted winner, everyone liked her and she also went to have continued success.....she was one of the strongeest conestants bb has ever had, male or female.....you simply dont understand what the word strong means

is strong the person who choses his battles and beats everyone or is strong the person who fights everyone and loses ? the latter person is a loser who looks for petty conflict and thinks that makes the person look strong....its petty its short term and its pathetically weak

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by the truth

oh what complete and utter rubbish



kate lasted the 3 months , stood up to jade and others behaving like idiots, got drunk, danced, laughed, got involved in every task, spoke her mind , she was a multi faceted winner, everyone liked her and she also went to have continued success.....she was one of the strongeest conestants bb has ever had, male or female.....you simply dont understand what the word strong means

is strong the person who choses his battles and beats everyone or is strong the person who fights everyone and loses ? the latter person is a loser who looks for petty conflict and thinks that makes the person look strong....its petty its short term and its pathetically weak

I am not disputing whether kate waa likeable or deserving of winning i am saying kate was weak. Kate initially struggled to stick up for herself and did look to.spencer to protect her against alex - this intensified 2 guys rivalry until they were nommed in famous head to head which spencer.lost. girls who need a man to protect them are weak imo. but a nice girl all the same.

Nadia first strong woman to win.