[the truth]

Originally Posted by wannashag

sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you, that was a saying i learnt in primary school, i guess the saying now in schools is, knifes and guns will kill our enemy's but name calling is far more worse

names do hurt people, especially the weak the young the disabled and the impressionable...these verbal abuses can ultimately lead to suicide...the laws of discrimination seem to be tighter for racism and sexism than against the disabled... .frankie boyle makes millions doing this, yet we teach all our children its wrong to be mean cruel and bigotted....I have heard millions of sick comments from kids aimed at disabled people over the years...I have worked with disabled people, learning disabled, physically disabled etc and it clearly upsets and hurts these people and it must be stopped. its disgusting

[Omah]

Originally Posted by the truth

names do hurt people, especially the weak the young the disabled and the impressionable...these verbal abuses can ultimately lead to suicide...the laws of discrimination seem to be tighter for racism and sexism than against the disabled... .frankie boyle makes millions doing this, yet we teach all our children its wrong to be mean cruel and bigotted....I have heard millions of sick comments from kids aimed at disabled people over the years...I have worked with disabled people, learning disabled, physically disabled etc and it clearly upsets and hurts these people and it must be stopped. its disgusting

Yeah, basically Boyle is a cowardly bully - he encourages those who think they are the "hip" to join his "gang" and spit on those that exist outside the "circle" - a technique honed to perfection by the dead Jade Goody, an equally repellent species of sub-human .....

[Alf]

Originally Posted by the truth

names do hurt people, especially the weak the young the disabled and the impressionable...these verbal abuses can ultimately lead to suicide...the laws of discrimination seem to be tighter for racism and sexism than against the disabled... .frankie boyle makes millions doing this, yet we teach all our children its wrong to be mean cruel and bigotted....I have heard millions of sick comments from kids aimed at disabled people over the years...I have worked with disabled people, learning disabled, physically disabled etc and it clearly upsets and hurts these people and it must be stopped. its disgusting

it's not down to frankie boyle's comedy routine why people commit suicide, if they cant take a joke how ever offensive and have to top themselfs because of what someone said, then it's their own fault, they wont get no sympathy from me, i have my own problems to worry about, but wouldn't resort to suicide. everything he says you'll find them words in the oxford english dictionary, because that's all they are words, they cant do you no harm.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by wannashag

it's not down to frankie boyle's comedy routine why people commit suicide, if they cant take a joke how ever offensive and have to top themselfs because of what someone said, then it's their own fault, they wont get no sympathy from me, i have my own problems to worry about, but wouldn't resort to suicide. everything he says you'll find them words in the oxford english dictionary, because that's all they are words, they cant do you no harm.

The Greek poet Euripides, who died about 406 B.C., said, "Η γλώσσα είναι ισχυρότερη από τη λεπίδα.", ie. "The tongue is mightier than the blade."

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Omah

The Greek poet Euripides, who died about 406 B.C., said, "The tongue is mightier than the blade."

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

[the truth]

Originally Posted by wannashag

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

racism , anti semitism, discrimination against the disabled all starts with words and ideas....its horrific and words can and do destroy people.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by the truth

racism , anti semitism, discrimination against the disabled all starts with words and ideas....its horrific and words can and do destroy people.

so you think our right to speak, our minds something that humans do, should be surpressed?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by wannashag

so you think our right to speak, our minds something that humans do, should be surpressed?

What about the Papers right to speak their minds about Boyle then? What's good for the goose and all that

[the truth]

Originally Posted by wannashag

so you think our right to speak, our minds something that humans do, should be surpressed?

yes if it is discriminating against people, thats why we have laws? what an absurd question

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by wannashag

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

No he wasen't he was spot on, you can stick a knife in someone yes, but if you can talk 100 people into sticking knives in each other it's much more effective.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kizzy

No he wasen't he was spot on, you can stick a knife in someone yes, but if you can talk 100 people into sticking knives in each other it's much more effective.

Yeah, Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda and National Enlightenment, was a master at doing that .....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Omah

Yeah, Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda and National Enlightenment, was a master at doing that .....

It's how the taliban work too, i'm not saying frankie is in their league...yet haha!

[Omah]

Originally Posted by wannashag

well then euripides talked out of his backside, in my lifetime someone calling sombody else a name never killed them, but if someone stuck a blade in to somebody else, then i have seen people killed through that, but hey if you want to take the word of some ancient greek myth then go for it

I might mention Bulwer-Lytton's "The pen is mightier than the sword" (1839), too, and other numerous references to the efficacy of communication, but I don't think I'll bother .....