[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Mohammed married Aisha aged 6, and had sex with her when she was 9, and he was 54. When this man is your moral guide, then one thing follows the other.

Oh my god... i studied Islam as part of my RS GCSE, and i knew she was a lot younger but not that much

Originally Posted by Mary Magdalene

Oh my god... i studied Islam as part of my RS GCSE, and i knew she was a lot younger but not that much

It's not really spoken about publicly, so we can avoid having a discussion about the things Mohammed actually did in his life. She was his friends daughter, and his friend wasn't keen, but Mohammed used his power to talk him in to it.

That's the final messenger from god, right there.

That's why the age of consent has been so low in many Muslim countries - although this is now being addressed bit by bit. In Yemen, for a long time, the age of consent was 9.

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's not really spoken about publicly, so we can avoid having a discussion about the things Mohammed actually did in his life. She was his friends daughter, and his friend wasn't keen, but Mohammed used his power to talk him in to it.

That's the final messenger from god, right there.

That's why the age of consent has been so low in many Muslim countries - although this is now being addressed bit by bit. In Yemen, for a long time, the age of consent was 9.

Just awful..
I did really well in RS GCSE but we never got told that
and omg the age of consent in Yemen is STILL 9?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's not really spoken about publicly, so we can avoid having a discussion about the things Mohammed actually did in his life. She was his friends daughter, and his friend wasn't keen, but Mohammed used his power to talk him in to it.

That's the final messenger from god, right there.

That's why the age of consent has been so low in many Muslim countries - although this is now being addressed bit by bit. In Yemen, for a long time, the age of consent was 9.

That is absolutely disgusting.

They've increased it now, so it is no longer 9. But it was for many years. All based on the example set by the so-called prophet.

[Kizzy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20409229
The report noted that unless a perpetrator has actually been arrested, it is difficult to be sure of their ethnicity. However, analysis of the reported ethnicity of more than 1,500 alleged perpetrators showed that about a third were white, the largest ethnic group.

"The reality is that each year thousands of children in England are raped and abused by people seeking to humiliate, violate and control them," said Ms Berelowitz.

"These have included children who have been abducted, trafficked, beaten and threatened after being drawn into a web of sexual violence by promises of love and others who have suffered in silence for years as they are casually and routinely raped by the boys in their neighbourhoods."

Andrew Flanagan, chief executive of the NSPCC, said: "Sex offenders come from all backgrounds but if there is a problem with one community in a particular areas we must be bold enough to address it and not just turn a blind eye.
Omah posted this info a couple of weeks ago, but it has relevance here.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Virgin Mock

I definitely agree with the bit in bold in particular, how they think The Police (who have alot of black Police Officers now) will arrest them because of the colour of there skin is quite ridiculous, if anyone gets arrested then there must be evidence.

Originally Posted by Virgin Mock

Now I agree with everything you've said there The Truth, I do think some people can blindly ignore when a black or asian person can be racist but when it's a white person being racist they get attacked.

If people weren't so scared of arresting black and asian people for hate crimes (like when the 3 muslim girls beat up the white girl and called her a white slag) then we probably could stop racism more, but the law is hopeless at stopping murderers, rapists, and paedophiles so this country will never be sorting out prejudice anytime soon until the 3 main crimes get better sentencing.

And you can't even say anything about it without being accused of being a racist.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

And you can't even say anything about it without being accused of being a racist.

Well people are saying things about it now....
After the police were branded 'institutionally racist' they were naturally hesitant to be seen as the bearer of bad news.......
suck it up!
this is our doing.

[the truth]

Dare I say it Im glad Im a follower of Christianity and not islam or Judaism as theyre way more hard line.

[Redway]

Are you seriously suggesting that Christianity isn't as bad? The same religion that asks for gays to be stoned, and women to shut up in church, etc?

[Livia]

Everyone discriminates and everyone is discriminated against in one way or another.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Mohammed married Aisha aged 6, and had sex with her when she was 9, and he was 54. When this man is your moral guide, then one thing follows the other.

You do realise life was alot difference back then to now,right? Situations similar to this were common even in England too.

It's also ridiculous to assume a small minority of Asian men who do this is due to what you stated.

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's not really spoken about publicly, so we can avoid having a discussion about the things Mohammed actually did in his life.

It's used as a smear campaign all the time...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

Are you seriously suggesting that Christianity isn't as bad? The same religion that asks for gays to be stoned, and women to shut up in church, etc?

1) thats a lie and 2) yes Christianity is fantastic and infinitely more enlightened than these other religions imho and more enlightened than most posters on here.

[Kizzy]

Thats what I don't like about religion, the attitudes of those who abide these dilutions of ancient texts, most of which I would suggest bear no resemblance to the original documents.
This inflated sense of entitlement, assumed authority, and ultimately superiority over others is what christianity has come to mean to me.
Over the years it has been used as a tool of social control using indoctrination to specific 'sects' for want of a better word.
Each with their own unique set of provisos, prejudices, and punishments.
Far and away from any resemblance of spirituality or enlightenment.
Christians are as guilty as any other faith of fundamentalism.
I have my god given free will, and I don't like the abuses of power by those who assume elevated status due to their position in the christian churches of every denomination.
Well.... I think thats all I have to say about that.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Everyone discriminates and everyone is discriminated against in one way or another.

this all the way!

[Redway]

Originally Posted by the truth

1) thats a lie and 2) yes Christianity is fantastic and infinitely more enlightened than these other religions imho and more enlightened than most posters on here.

No, it's not. Go and check out the Bible yourself. I cba posting links right now but you know exactly what I mean.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Thats what I don't like about religion, the attitudes of those who abide these dilutions of ancient texts, most of which I would suggest bear no resemblance to the original documents.
This inflated sense of entitlement, assumed authority, and ultimately superiority over others is what christianity has come to mean to me.
Over the years it has been used as a tool of social control using indoctrination to specific 'sects' for want of a better word.
Each with their own unique set of provisos, prejudices, and punishments.
Far and away from any resemblance of spirituality or enlightenment.
Christians are as guilty as any other faith of fundamentalism.
I have my god given free will, and I don't like the abuses of power by those who assume elevated status due to their position in the christian churches of every denomination.
Well.... I think thats all I have to say about that.

absolute rubbish, as usual you twist and exagerrate the opinions of religions.

This site over liberal military left wing site is far more fundamental, hundreds of thousands of abortions, all mothers should smoke during pregnancy, hetrosexual men must burn, etc

as for Christians, theyre not fundamentalists and certainly not as radical as the muslims and the Jews in their beliefs. But when Christians come on to sites like this and show they are more flexible and not fundamentalsts, the radical liberals hate that too. they say its either 100% believe and live by every word of the Bble or nothing. Its the militant left who show no compromise or flexibility. They are the fundamentalists.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

No, it's not. Go and check out the Bible yourself. I cba posting links right now but you know exactly what I mean.

You go and check it. Youre lying plain and simple. Show me where jesus said stone gays?

[InOne]

Hmmmm, starting to think thetruth is another personality of LT/President/Gavin

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Hmmmm, starting to think thetruth is another personality of LT/President/Gavin

as usual ignore the smessage and attack the messenger. typical militant left.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

absolute rubbish, as usual you twist and exagerrate the opinions of religions.

This site over liberal military left wing site is far more fundamental, hundreds of thousands of abortions, all mothers should smoke during pregnancy, hetrosexual men must burn, etc

as for Christians, theyre not fundamentalists and certainly not as radical as the muslims and the Jews in their beliefs. But when Christians come on to sites like this and show they are more flexible and not fundamentalsts, the radical liberals hate that too. they say its either 100% believe and live by every word of the Bble or nothing. Its the militant left who show no compromise or flexibility. They are the fundamentalists.

Those were my views.. not those of the site.
My personal opinion, I may not follow a faith but that does not mean I do not have spiritual beliefs.
Do you understand how you just proved my point?
You attacked me in an offensive post suggesting i'm a radical, militant and a fundamental for daring to disagree with you.
Is that right, fair or a christian thing to do?
What happened to turning the other cheek?...
What I find most ridiculous is your insistance that my post suggests I hate men, heterosexuals and all christians are fundamentals...
To be fair you have not given me anything in your above post to show me you are flexible in your approach to the thoughts and feelings of others in all honesty.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

You do realise life was alot difference back then to now,right? Situations similar to this were common even in England too.

It's also ridiculous to assume a small minority of Asian men who do this is due to what you stated.



It's used as a smear campaign all the time...

Point 1 - Life may have been different, but this is a so-called prophet who supposedly had an angel Gabriel iphone with god on speed dial. If you're saying that the morality of humanity has changed to frown upon these things over time, then we are in agreement. What I find difficult to believe, is that you seem to be excusing his behaviour in the context of the time period. Either he was a prophet who should know better, or he's a power crazy peedophile. He can't be both.

I didn't say they did it because of the Aisha, I just gave context for it to happen. When their prophet is a child molester, who Muslims believe was the final messenger from God, and his actions in life (through the hadiths) are just as important as the Koran, then he can't be bound to the norms of that period in history.

If he was talking and receiving messages from god, why didn't the big man upstairs tell him "Oi, Mohammed, no marrying 6 year old girls, and ****ing them when they are 9.

I can be repulsed by the whole thing and see it for what it is. I don't have to try and play historical gymnastics to try and excuse the behaviour of men supposedly inspired by the creator of the universe.

Rather than worrying about the smear, maybe you'd care to counter it with a point other than, they were all paedo's back then?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Those were my views.. not those of the site.
My personal opinion, I may not follow a faith but that does not mean I do not have spiritual beliefs.
Do you understand how you just proved my point?
You attacked me in an offensive post suggesting i'm a radical, militant and a fundamental for daring to disagree with you.
Is that right, fair or a christian thing to do?
What happened to turning the other cheek?...
What I find most ridiculous is your insistance that my post suggests I hate men, heterosexuals and all christians are fundamentals...
To be fair you have not given me anything in your above post to show me you are flexible in your approach to the thoughts and feelings of others in all honesty.

try reading some of my other posts then. I didnt say you were radical militant either, youre precious ego is taking it way too personally. i was speaking of the general culture on this radical militant left wing site. I dont water it all down to pacify the left wing. I say what I believe. You shouldnt take offence.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Point 1 - Life may have been different, but this is a so-called prophet who supposedly had an angel Gabriel iphone with god on speed dial. If you're saying that the morality of humanity has changed to frown upon these things over time, then we are in agreement. What I find difficult to believe, is that you seem to be excusing his behaviour in the context of the time period. Either he was a prophet who should know better, or he's a power crazy peedophile. He can't be both.

I didn't say they did it because of the Aisha, I just gave context for it to happen. When their prophet is a child molester, who Muslims believe was the final messenger from God, and his actions in life (through the hadiths) are just as important as the Koran, then he can't be bound to the norms of that period in history.

If he was talking and receiving messages from god, why didn't the big man upstairs tell him "Oi, Mohammed, no marrying 6 year old girls, and ****ing them when they are 9.

I can be repulsed by the whole thing and see it for what it is. I don't have to try and play historical gymnastics to try and excuse the behaviour of men supposedly inspired by the creator of the universe.

Rather than worrying about the smear, maybe you'd care to counter it with a point other than, they were all paedo's back then?

is there a reason why you continue to smear Christianity and Islam, yet appear to support Judaism?

Originally Posted by the truth

is there a reason why you continue to smear Christianity and Islam, yet appear to support Judaism?

I don't support Judaism. It's just developed into more of a secular presence in every day life. Christianity and Islam want to have a say in the public sphere.

I'm an anti-theist. I don't believe any of it is true, and I'm glad it's not. I favour religions that are happy to keep themselves to themselves and aren't continually looking to grow.

When was the last time you saw a bunch of Jews out in the city centre trying to convert people? You don[t, and you never would. Religion in private, and staying out of the public debate is fine with me. Religion that wants to shape our public policy on abortion or anything else, is not OK with me.