FAQ |
Members List |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
22-12-2012, 05:47 PM | #26 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 05:55 PM | #27 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 06:05 PM | #28 | |||
|
||||
Fighting the PC Culture
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 06:06 PM | #29 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 06:09 PM | #30 | ||
|
|||
Guest
|
Quote:
|
||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 06:11 PM | #31 | ||
|
|||
Guest
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 06:11 PM | #32 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
22-12-2012, 09:54 PM | #33 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
I see people like to blame trivial things rather than doing the obvious, i.e. banning guns. It's ridiculous.
__________________
Don’t let your regret be stronger than your gratitude, don’t go hanging on to negativity and don’t go underselling yourself. That is all. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 07:12 AM | #34 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
I do not disagree win any of the points raised in his address , however the conclusions he draws ie that more guns are needed to make people safer is complete nonsense.
The proliferation of guns in the US has hit epidemic proportions with nearly a handgun for every member of society. Over 300 million at the last count, a crazy statistic together with the number of gun related deaths every year nearly 12,000 which is more than double all the countries of Europe combined. It's time to reign the NRA , bring in legislation to amend or repeal the 2nd Amendment and start to get the guns off the streets. It will not be easy and may take a generation to achieve but it must now happen as tragedies like Newtown will just keep happening or perhaps worse...!!! |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 11:36 AM | #35 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Safer entry systems and CCTV would delay any intrusion until an armed response arrived.
Why place anyone in danger? If Americans really cannot live without weapons then I would say limit civilian held licences to be reduced to 1 handgun only. This would restrict access and hopefully reduce that terrible statistic of 11'000 deaths.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 01:51 PM | #36 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
The "violent films and video games" argument is a weak one. The vast majority of people can differentiate between fiction and real life. Those that can't are already unhinged and would most probably be violent without watching films and playing video games.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 02:22 PM | #37 | |||
|
||||
Fighting the PC Culture
|
If you're in favor of gun control, you oughta look up to people like Hitler and Stalin cause they definitely believed in gun control.
Bottom line, the government ultimately wants a population that is disarmed. And it has nothing to do with keeping people safe (as is often the garb) and everything to do with enhancing their power. An armed population is more independent and less inclined to look to government for subsistence and are less likely to offer up any kind of resistance to their authority. ALL OF THE DICTATORS in the past understood this and you think our governments don't understand this? Or perhaps you think our situation is different to other countries and our leaders want our guns because they genuinely care about our safety? If you believe that, I have some beach property to sell you in Montana. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 02:51 PM | #38 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
No America would never do that. Its built on the Rights to be Armed |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 02:55 PM | #39 | ||
|
|||
Guest
|
Quote:
Obama could kick your asses if every one had 10 guns each, so being armed may have worked in the 1800's, but it might be time to grow up for you. Both personally and as a nation. |
||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 03:34 PM | #40 | |||
|
||||
Fighting the PC Culture
|
Quote:
__________________
Spoiler: |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 03:52 PM | #41 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
"worked in the 1800's"
America is a Young Nation hated by many. So there Guns will Stay forever unless a Van with a Nuke goes off, which could then change America |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 04:51 PM | #42 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Bullsh*t Their just looking for excuses to save their own arse
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 04:55 PM | #43 | ||
|
|||
Guest
|
Quote:
Once you accept that government isn't going to kick your asses, then you have to acknowledge that you no longer need arms to protect yourselves from government tyranny. |
||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 04:56 PM | #44 | ||
|
|||
Guest
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 05:37 PM | #45 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 08:01 PM | #46 | |||
|
||||
Fighting the PC Culture
|
Quote:
__________________
Spoiler: |
|||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 08:05 PM | #47 | ||
|
|||
Guest
|
Quote:
If you don't like what the government does, then vote, but being a gun owner will have no influence on your government, or your personal say in matters. I'm not saying your government is great, or even functional with crazy republicans who can't even pass their own bills when they are in the majority. Here's a question, how many times have your population been forced to take up arms against the government since independence? |
||
Reply With Quote |
23-12-2012, 11:42 PM | #48 | |||
|
||||
Altar Ego
|
The NRA are a sad and dangerous anachronism. They perpetuate the worst in the American psyche.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
24-12-2012, 01:00 AM | #49 | |||
|
||||
It's lacroix darling
|
This is ludicrous. How dare he, the president of what's effectively a gun appreciation society try to shift blame onto the media. The people who are part of the NRA are the people that cause these shootings in America. They're the idiots that support the second amendment no matter how many people get shot from the lax gun controls it enforces.
Though the media may come into it partially, the NRA are bigger problem than the media could ever hope to be.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
24-12-2012, 03:41 AM | #50 | |||
|
||||
Quand il pleut, il pleut
|
..to me, saying that things like this are contributed to video games in any way is similar to saying that he ate a lot of bread, so it must have been the wheat that did it...I know that's not the same thing at all, as some people do contribute video games as 'desensitising' people...but I personally feel that these things are contributed to a chemical inbalance in the brain, which could be triggered by anything..or nothing..it could be the smallest, seemingly insignificant thing that triggers them...the brain is very complex...I don't think we'll ever fully understand what goes on inside people's heads or the cause of it, so when we don't understand things, there's a tendency to start 'laying blame'....
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|