[_Seth]

It seems like the unwanted child of a channel that no-one takes seriously. Instead of being FIVE instead of Channel 5 or whatever they're trying (and failing to do), I really think a complete brand overhaul would be great. New name, philosophy on what they show (they need to get rid of their obsession with celebrities in general), new look, font, etc.

[DigitalSid]

C5 now regularly matches and beats C4, perceptions of it are slowly changing from the changes already made.

[Niamh.]

I think C5 is a really good channel. I would have never watched anything on it before

[crollsy]

Channel 5 (or at least 5* and the like) have some really good american shows IIRC.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by crollsy

Channel 5 (or at least 5* and the like) have some really good american shows IIRC.

Yeah, they show The Mentalist which I accidentally started watching one day after BB ended, it's really good too

[crollsy]

Once Upon A Time is on one of them as well, which is a really good show. I forget which channel, Sky+ takes care of it for me lol.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by crollsy

Once Upon A Time is on one of them as well, which is a really good show. I forget which channel, Sky+ takes care of it for me lol.

I watched a few episodes of that, I couldn't get into it at all, maybe i should have given it more of a chance!

[Jarrod]

I have to say, i've watched Channel 5 quite often since last summer.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its just your perception of Channel 5. Just because people think its failing doesnt mean it is.

They are probably on par with Channel 4 now and have some great shows and documentaries.

BB has helped it alot obviously.

Its only in the last year and a half that they relaunched ect so no they dont need to do anything.

[andy191]

Seems to be doing well since Desmond took over.

[Tregard]

They just has their third or fourth rehaul

[InOne]

5* started showing Malcolm In The Middle again and shows some other good old shows. It's a bit trashy at times but it's a pretty good brand overall

[Marcus.]

channel 5 is fab

[*mazedsalv**]

News from Dec 2012 showed that only Channel 5 and Channel 4 grew in % viewing since Dec 2011. All other channels fell, so I reckon CH5 is starting to find it's feet.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Who cares if it's ratings are increasing, it's still tacky and godawful. Look what they've done to Big Brother.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Who cares if it's ratings are increasing, it's still tacky and godawful. Look what they've done to Big Brother.

People forget that Channel 4 actually changed the editing format of BB from CBB7.

It wasnt Channel 5 who started doing recaps and putting music montages in episodes.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

People forget that Channel 4 actually changed the editing format of BB from CBB7.

It wasnt Channel 5 who started doing recaps and putting music montages in episodes.

C5 took it to a new extreme and amped up the manipulation. But yeah, C4 were pricks for doing it in the first place.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

People forget that Channel 4 actually changed the editing format of BB from CBB7.

It wasnt Channel 5 who started doing recaps and putting music montages in episodes.

No live feed, the terrible website, the terrible stage, the ridiculous dancers, ridiculous spin off show, the unimaginative eyes and graphics, bad advertising, OTT campness, flop twists, casting good looking young people only, two CBBs a year, the list goes on.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Salman!

No live feed, the terrible website, the terrible stage, the ridiculous dancers, ridiculous spin off show, the unimaginative eyes and graphics, bad advertising, OTT campness, flop twists, casting good looking young people only, two CBBs a year, the list goes on.

Yet you still watch it?

[Ryan.]

Originally Posted by Salman!

No live feed, the terrible website, the terrible stage, the ridiculous dancers, ridiculous spin off show, the unimaginative eyes and graphics, bad advertising, OTT campness, flop twists, casting good looking young people only, two CBBs a year, the list goes on.

Judging by the fact that almost all you described there is present in the new AU version - I'd say its likely that it's Endemol's new desired direction.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Well for what it is it can still be good (CBB9 and BB13 are proof of that) just not amazing.

[Conor]

Isn't they way BB is produced completely down to how endemol decide to produce it? I thought all 5 done was buy the rights to air it. I'm not sure they have much say in the production beyond scheduling etc. It would probably be exactly the same on any other channel. I might be wrong though.

Anyway, in regards to C5 I think it's already made its overhaul and has succeeded with it. 4 years ago I would have taken 5 to be a joke, but now it is one of my fav channels. They have The Walking Dead and plenty of other big US dramas. They got Big Brother and soon American Idol will be on. They are a success story and will deffo be a channel to keep an eye on in the next few years.

[reece(:]

I like Body of Proof and Once Upon a Time but they do show some utter trash.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I watched a few episodes of that, I couldn't get into it at all, maybe i should have given it more of a chance!

If you can get past how awful Prince Charming is then it's a great show, because he nearly made me stop watching.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Phlip

C5 took it to a new extreme and amped up the manipulation. But yeah, C4 were pricks for doing it in the first place.

May i remind you of this lol

Youtube video

And dont get me started on that superhero task where they had Rachael flying over the house.