[Marc]

[Ramsay]

[Marc]

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Ben

You what? It didn't bother you and he is a lovely person? Then why we're you a massive **** in ousting them? It's like saying you ran over someone because they pissed you off but you really do love them so it's all okay. This whole nice guy portrayal you have is a load of bull and the way you forced out that situation was disgusting. If that is how you treat friends then good luck to you and even more so to your friends.

Okay Ben, this really upsets me. First off I want to say how highly I think of you. I think you are such a nice guy, you put so much heart into this forum and that you are one of the most intelligent members on this site. Because I think so highly of you and see you as a friend, it upsets me that you responded in this way.

I was in no way a 'massive ****' in ousting them. I want to take you back to the thread I posted to remind you of how I approached the situation:

"...but here's the deal guys, I don't know who knows or anything but Mollie doesn't exist. Mollie is actually a guy. I won't go into too many details here, but I just want to say this - I genuinely believe that this guy, Mike his name is, didn't mean to do this. Well, I think he struggled with confidence and wanted to make an internet alias. That being said, Mike has the same birthday as Mollie, the same background, the same skills in designing. It's just he's Mike, not Mollie. I don't want to speak on his behalf as I don't know, but hopefully eventually he might get the courage to come on here and speak for himself.

Yeah it sucks, especially if you were as close to Mollie as I was. But you know what, it's the internet and these things happen. Whether you want to say hello to Mike or just move on from this Mollie thing, it's your choice. But I just think it's hard for everyone right now. This is why I was sad yesterday, but I am ok now. I care a lot about this person whatever happens and this 'Bridge to Terabithia' quote says it all for me, and that's how I want to end this post."

On top of that the thread I created was titled 'I love Mollie'. I did not run over Mike in any way. In fact, out of everyone on this site, I always stayed loyal to Mike throughout all of this. Drew and all these other people told me to be mad at Mike, but I really never was cause I loved him and still do love him. And that is also why I'm voting for him in Most Loved, if I do vote, because I really love him so much. And your last part about 'that's how you treat your friends', I've only treated Mike with respect and kindness, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Also, just so you know, I was going to come from Switzerland to the UK this summer to see 'Mollie', but even despite that I'm not angry at all, because that's how much I valued our friendship and that's why I was able to forgive him so easily.

I've always liked you and cared about you a lot Ben, but I just had to defend myself in this situation. Come on buddy, we're the Hira fans together after all!

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Hate to bring it back up again, but in defence of him the only reason he posted it was because Jenna had told half the forum on Skype, before that it wasn't going to be brought onto the forum at all. And the reason it didn't get brought to the mods first to reveal it how they wanted or whatever, is because, well.. it was none of their business.

But having said that, yeah, you need to drop it Raph. It's been about 6 weeks.

Thank you, Locke. And yeah I'm sorry I don't mean to bring it up but i've always been someone who's struggled with change and the thought of losing people. It comes with the OCD I have so I tend to not be able to control myself about it

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Drew and all these other people told me to be mad at Mike

Not really fair that, at the time we said what we'd be like in that situation, and yes I did say to not be too hasty in forgiving, but that was only my point of view

[Raph]

Aw that's okay, Jesus! I wrote it for Ben so it's totally fine if you don't read it. That's a really cute gif by the way!

[Raph]

Originally Posted by JH95

Not really fair that, at the time we said what we'd be like in that situation, and yes I did say to not be too hasty in forgiving, but that was only my point of view

Aw I didn't say anything was wrong with your point of view though? Sorry

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Aw I didn't say anything was wrong with your point of view though? Sorry

I know you didn't, but making it sound like we said for you to stay mad at Mike isn't really fair lol, but it's ok

[Drew.]

[Brother Leon]

This weirdo is still being discussed. Goodn****ig grief.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by JH95

I know you didn't, but making it sound like we said for you to stay mad at Mike isn't really fair lol, but it's ok

Oh I see what you mean, I'm so sorry I didn't mean it to come across like that. I just meant that other people would be mad in that situation, but that because I valued my friendship with Mike so much, I couldn't get myself to be mad about it. But i'm sorry if it came across that way, I didn't mean it like that at all!

[Drew.]

still

[Jake.]

No worries then...

[MTVN]

Might be being a bit liberal with the word 'love' there dont you think Raph old boy

[Josy]

Can we move on now, this **** is boring as hell.

If you are going to vote Mollie/Mike/Mary whatever the hell they are called then do it just don't completely troll the thread saying how amazing they are every day and making it all into some kind of a joke.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Might be being a bit liberal with the word 'love' there dont you think Raph old boy

I dunno, I count Mike as one of the best friends i've ever had in my life that I think love is applicable I miss talking to you matt!

[Jake.]

You seem a bit edgy Josy, treat yourself to a brownie mcflurry

[Drew.]

your a very confusing chap Raph.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by JH95

You seem a bit edgy Josy, treat yourself to a brownie mcflurry

this. I really wish everyone could just be happy and get along

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Raph

Okay Ben, this really upsets me. First off I want to say how highly I think of you. I think you are such a nice guy, you put so much heart into this forum and that you are one of the most intelligent members on this site. Because I think so highly of you and see you as a friend, it upsets me that you responded in this way.

I was in no way a 'massive ****' in ousting them. I want to take you back to the thread I posted to remind you of how I approached the situation:

"...but here's the deal guys, I don't know who knows or anything but Mollie doesn't exist. Mollie is actually a guy. I won't go into too many details here, but I just want to say this - I genuinely believe that this guy, Mike his name is, didn't mean to do this. Well, I think he struggled with confidence and wanted to make an internet alias. That being said, Mike has the same birthday as Mollie, the same background, the same skills in designing. It's just he's Mike, not Mollie. I don't want to speak on his behalf as I don't know, but hopefully eventually he might get the courage to come on here and speak for himself.

Yeah it sucks, especially if you were as close to Mollie as I was. But you know what, it's the internet and these things happen. Whether you want to say hello to Mike or just move on from this Mollie thing, it's your choice. But I just think it's hard for everyone right now. This is why I was sad yesterday, but I am ok now. I care a lot about this person whatever happens and this 'Bridge to Terabithia' quote says it all for me, and that's how I want to end this post."

On top of that the thread I created was titled 'I love Mollie'. I did not run over Mike in any way. In fact, out of everyone on this site, I always stayed loyal to Mike throughout all of this. Drew and all these other people told me to be mad at Mike, but I really never was cause I loved him and still do love him. And that is also why I'm voting for him in Most Loved, if I do vote, because I really love him so much. And your last part about 'that's how you treat your friends', I've only treated Mike with respect and kindness, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Also, just so you know, I was going to come from Switzerland to the UK this summer to see 'Mollie', but even despite that I'm not angry at all, because that's how much I valued our friendship and that's why I was able to forgive him so easily.

I've always liked you and cared about you a lot Ben, but I just had to defend myself in this situation. Come on buddy, we're the Hira fans together after all!

..Raph, I know that you've accepted that 'Mollie' doesn't exist..and maybe Mike has the same design skills, background etc...but I don't feel that you are fully seeing what he actually did unless you're seeing the whole Mike and not being selective over stuff...Mike deceived the people who trusted him and he allowed someone to invest time, money and emotion into meeting him, knowing that meeting couldn't take place..he also used pics of someone who is unaware that they're being posted on a forum....and also Raph, if Drew or any of your other friends gave you any advice, it was because Drew himself had just experienced something similar with another member..so that advise was given as an act of friendship...

[Tom4784]

Ugh all this Mollie stuff is so ****ing boring.

[Apple202]

im on raph's side tbh, i don't see why people keep feeling the need to slam each other. this place would be so much brighter if we all just got on

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ugh all this Mollie stuff is so ****ing boring.

Agreed!