[GiRTh]

On BOTS just now to Dan. What do we think?

Dan - You were scared?

Hazel - I was terrified.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Oh hellz no!!

Get Hazel out. She's going to play the innocent card now, and I definitely saw the abusive signs in him card.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Oh hellz no!!

Get Hazel out. She's going to play the innocent card now, and I definitely saw the abusive signs in him card.

I know.

[GiRTh]

I started a thread on this but mines less biased

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Oh hellz no!!

Get Hazel out. She's going to play the innocent card now, and I definitely saw the abusive signs in him card.

If she was terrified ,she hid it well!!!

[Marsh.]

She clearly looked it too. Getting straight off the bed and leaping to the other side of the room illustrates that.

[reece(:]

I thought she was scared but was trying not to show it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I thought she was scared but was trying not to show it.

I agree, sometimes that can be a defence mechanism.

[Johnnyuk123]

Didn't Dan say the same when Hazel rested her boobs on his head?

[Patricia4]

She maybe was scared but she is now going to play on it to stay in.

[CaudleHalbard]

Again I would use the analogy of a person poking at a pit-bull with a stick..........

.......... and then getting "terrified" at its reaction.

What a stupid cow! The entire incident was caused by Hazel's lust. She couldn't leave the knucklehead alone and there was an almost predictable reaction.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Again I would use the analogy of a person poking at a pit-bull with a stick..........

.......... and then getting "terrified" at its reaction.

What a stupid cow! The entire incident was caused by Hazel's lust. She couldn't leave the knucklehead alone and there was an almost predictable reaction.

Thats a dreadful thing to say. Nothing can justify Daleys actions no matter how much teasing or flirting went on. She thought he was being jokey but when she realised he was serious the look on her face and her body language showed just how afraid she was getting

[Jordan.]

LOL she's so playing on it. Good for her though atleast she's becoming far more interesting and memorable than most models on BB.

[rusticgal]

What Daley did was unforgivable and he deserved to go....however Hazel goaded him all the way knowing that she was safe... her reactions to Daley did not come from a women that was afraid....jumping on the couch after Daley was called to the diary room was an afterthought.... she is evil and had a part to play in the evenings activities.

[Jamie585]

Of course she was scared!!!!!! How could you not be, she just tried to hide it, but feels comfortable enough with Dan to tell him the truth.

[Jords]

I hope she doesnt manipulate the situation, thats not fair in the slightest.

[kefln]

I dont care how you feel about Hazel, but blaming her for this, is just wrong/sick/crazy.

Yes she was flirting, yes she was looking for attention, maybe she was looking for a little bed action, but she wasnt looking/expecting what happened.

It all went wrong from the point that daley stood on the bed, in a dominate pose, calling her a mother******, then telling her to respect him, then holding her by the throat and throwing her a headbutt.

The sooner BB called him to the diaryroom, she fled to the chair.

Hazels conflict of interest was plain to see. Daley is/was her friend, his change was so extreme that she didnt know how to react. She was in shock.


And I am in shock over peoples reactions. Listening to the callers BBBOTS a lot of the blame was being dropped on hazels lap. Which is twisted. When does slapping a guy on the arse equate to being threatened with a headbutt? When does pulling someones pants down, in the dark, whike laughing, equal being grabbed by the throat?

It reminds me of girls wearing short skirts being blamed for inappropriate reactions by men.

[Nia-96]

I do think she was provoking a reaction from him, by pulling down his trousers, however that does not justify the way he reacted. I do also think she was genuinely scared, and I don't think she was expecting what happened.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by kefln

I dont care how you feel about Hazel, but blaming her for this, is just wrong/sick/crazy.

Yes she was flirting, yes she was looking for attention, maybe she was looking for a little bed action, but she wasnt looking/expecting what happened.

It all went wrong from the point that daley stood on the bed, in a dominate pose, calling her a mother******, then telling her to respect him, then holding her by the throat and throwing her a headbutt.

The sooner BB called him to the diaryroom, she fled to the chair.

Hazels conflict of interest was plain to see. Daley is/was her friend, his change was so extreme that she didnt know how to react. She was in shock.


And I am in shock over peoples reactions. Listening to the callers BBBOTS a lot of the blame was being dropped on hazels lap. Which is twisted. When does slapping a guy on the arse equate to being threatened with a headbutt? When does pulling someones pants down, in the dark, whike laughing, equal being grabbed by the throat?

It reminds me of girls wearing short skirts being blamed for inappropriate reactions by men.

What went wrong was Hazel pushing a man she knew nothing about, If Hazel had been playful in this way with any number of the men that I know she would have been safe because they would have given her a wide berth from the start and would never hit a woman. The slap was one thing but the hand on the throat was unacceptable especially as the papers have recently been full of such an action.
Hazel was also warned because she was part of what happened and most of the time she was laughing. BB should have thrown her out to teach young girls to more careful in what they do. Hazel was lucky she was in the BB house.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by kefln

I dont care how you feel about Hazel, but blaming her for this, is just wrong/sick/crazy.

Yes she was flirting, yes she was looking for attention, maybe she was looking for a little bed action, but she wasnt looking/expecting what happened.

It all went wrong from the point that daley stood on the bed, in a dominate pose, calling her a mother******, then telling her to respect him, then holding her by the throat and throwing her a headbutt.

The sooner BB called him to the diaryroom, she fled to the chair.

Hazels conflict of interest was plain to see. Daley is/was her friend, his change was so extreme that she didnt know how to react. She was in shock.


And I am in shock over peoples reactions. Listening to the callers BBBOTS a lot of the blame was being dropped on hazels lap. Which is twisted. When does slapping a guy on the arse equate to being threatened with a headbutt? When does pulling someones pants down, in the dark, whike laughing, equal being grabbed by the throat?

It reminds me of girls wearing short skirts being blamed for inappropriate reactions by men.

i dont think anyone should condone what Daley did but there are some double standards here

Hazel has spent the last 2 weeks touching him up inappropriately and when he has asked her to back off and leave him alone (because he was getting aroused) she proceeded to touch him again and wiggle herself on his lap

I think if that had been a guy, touching a girl, who was asking not to be touched, he would have been warned off but BB wanted them to 'get it on' so they just let her continue

She should have been thrown out too is all Im saying

Him for his aggressive behaviour

Her for her sexually aggressive behaviour

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by kefln

I dont care how you feel about Hazel, but blaming her for this, is just wrong/sick/crazy.

Yes she was flirting, yes she was looking for attention, maybe she was looking for a little bed action, but she wasnt looking/expecting what happened.

It all went wrong from the point that daley stood on the bed, in a dominate pose, calling her a mother******, then telling her to respect him, then holding her by the throat and throwing her a headbutt.

The sooner BB called him to the diaryroom, she fled to the chair.

Hazels conflict of interest was plain to see. Daley is/was her friend, his change was so extreme that she didnt know how to react. She was in shock.


And I am in shock over peoples reactions. Listening to the callers BBBOTS a lot of the blame was being dropped on hazels lap. Which is twisted. When does slapping a guy on the arse equate to being threatened with a headbutt? When does pulling someones pants down, in the dark, whike laughing, equal being grabbed by the throat?

It reminds me of girls wearing short skirts being blamed for inappropriate reactions by men.

No one can say that Daley was right and no one should be making excuses for Hazel. She began this flirting and took it way too far with a man she knew nothing about. If she had gone into that room with Daley and settled to sleep, with none of this flirting the rest would not have happened. What you say is current thinking but it is dangerous behaviour for a woman. Hazel was just fortunate that she tried this inside the big brother house where the action was being monitored. Women can wear their shorts and they will be safe as long as they do not start shaking a ' a red rag in front of a bull'.

It would help us all if men and women learnt from this episode.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by boomoo

No one can say that Daley was right and no one should be making excuses for Hazel. She began this flirting and took it way too far with a man she knew nothing about. If she had gone into that room with Daley and settled to sleep, with none of this flirting the rest would not have happened. What you say is current thinking but it is dangerous behaviour for a woman. Hazel was just fortunate that she tried this inside the big brother house where the action was being monitored. Women can wear their shorts and they will be safe as long as they do not start shaking a ' a red rag in front of a bull'.

It would help us all if men and women learnt from this episode.

You know one of the first things people say when they find out that their neighbour is an axe wielding maniac, who kept women locked in his basement, is "but he was always such a quiet, friendly sort".

You never know whats going on in someones head until you live with them and get to see them at their best, and worst.

You cant blame a girl for flirting and thinking that the guy that see now considers a friend, is in reality a thug. Nothing in life prepares you for that. If all that she has known is good decent men, then why would be expect any different here?

Its wrong to place blame on the victims. Even if its only a brief brush with violence, there are lasting effects.

[Maneki-neko]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Oh hellz no!!

Get Hazel out. She's going to play the innocent card now, and I definitely saw the abusive signs in him card.

Shut the **** up

[Parmy]

She looked it to me.

[cookiemonster]

yeh, i bet she was. why is there any disputing that?